Comment by permo-w

2 years ago

>I sincerely hope that the next round of EU laws tackles this instead of privacy

why instead?

Well because there's already been a lot of laws passed in that regard and there's already momentum. I don't mean they should stop this momentum, these privacy laws are incredibly important.

I meant the need to start a new front.

Because privacy laws have zero teeth and workarounds are technically easy (or endlessly annoying for zero new outcome, e.g. see cookie popups). If the EU would actually enforce GDPR it would be amazing.

Meanwhile these companies who have essentially became a public utility don’t provide customer support or explanations.

  • If the EU privacy regulations didn’t actually solve the problem, what makes you think they would do any better regulating customer support?

  • your ideas are contradictory:

    >If the EU would actually enforce GDPR it would be amazing

    >The EU should not focus on privacy laws any further

    and not to be advdersarial, but they do enforce GDPR. have a look at the enforcement tracker and sort by Fine:

    https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

    TLDR: less than 2 months ago, Meta - one of those de facto public utilities you're describing - was fined 1.2 Billion Euros for GDPR breaches. they and Amazon have previously been fined hundreds of millions

  • Lots of companies are expending a lot of effort to ensure they respect GDPR

    Non EU companies are the worst offenders at not understanding their privacy obligations (particularly ones that provide tags)

    • I'm guessing that the core idea behind GDPR laws wasn't a to flood internet with banner popups, but to limit excessive and unneeded for honest usage, storage of PII. IIRC GDPR allows for some limited PII storage without any banners, but it is restricted in time and scope, to prevent selling this data. Instead nobody is limiting usage of the data (not even Eurocommission site with GDPR rules) because that is not enforced in reality. So in essence GDPR law was a spectacular expensive failure, because nobody restricted their PII processing and analytics.

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