Comment by bananapub

3 years ago

then talk to the US government about their very fucking dumb failed sanctions regime against Cuba?

Dear US government, please open VPN access to everyone in the world. If you want citizens of an authoritative nation to be able to escape their local firewall, then these systems need to be available. You have a history of making these products and even funding them through things like Radio Free Asia. Though for some reason you also attack these systems too and cut their legs off. Get your fucking act together. Both citizens of our own country need encryption to avoid spying on from foreign nations as well as citizens of authoritarian nations need encryption to avoid spying from their own governments. They'll never rise up against their governments if they can't secretly communicate. Preventing encryption in our own country means you fear this too, which is not a great thing to tell your citizens.

Cubans are nice and poor. With their strong friendship with Russia and China, that is where we want them to be.

  • America's Cuba policy is a failure and continues to be a failure. Do you not think if America opened up to Cuba that wouldn't over time drastically lesson their dependency on Russia?

    Cuba really doesn't have much of a choice, they have to trade with "friendly" nations of which America refuses to be.

    Fun fact, when we (Canadians) go to Cuba they typically won't stamp our passports because they know it causes us issues when trying to enter the US.

  • You would think we'd want the contrapositive: to enrich them with global influx of capitalist market consumer demand, enough that they gain an independently self-stable economy, and stop feeling the need to rely on the support of Russia and China so much.

    (Or, at least, offer subsidies to their government if they stop supporting Russian and Chinese spies with their numbers stations et al.)

    • This is a very naive way to look at the world. Even if theoretically they would be happy with such "self-stable economy" [they naturally won't—nothing prevents human desires to ask for more and try to build win-win friendships,] Russia and China are not sitting around; they would go and meddle with their affairs.

      Mind you, I am not saying there is an existential possibility of a better policy, but the calculus would be nowhere as trivial as this.

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    • Given how badly that idea failed with China, I don’t see it happening any time soon with Cuba, a mere 90 miles from the US mainland. That proximity is a main reason why Cuba gets such special attention.

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