Comment by Fordec

3 years ago

> Don't accept votes from unknown, untrusted randoms.

Trust can be built from metadata. You stop it from being unknown, by shock, building up knowledge through recording it.

> They can't DDoS you if you have them pay for the resources required to serve them.

Not a payment processor. Not a business. Nobody is going to pay for membership. This is not on the table.

> That's fine.

I deeply disagree and you're not changing my position on that nor am I likely to change yours. But I'm the implementer, so guess which way it's going. See: Not accepting your money.

What I have though gotten out of this conversation is that I'm now aware of how much more complex feature set I need to put into the first party tracking to get it right in a shifting tech environment. So food for thought.

> But I'm the implementer, so guess which way it's going.

You're an implementer operating in a deeply adversarial environment where everyone is your enemy. Everything you do can and will be circumvented, especially by the Russia-style attackers you mentioned. See the copyright industry's fruitless attempts to curb copyright infringement. If it actually looks like you succeeded, it's only because people didn't care enough.

Unless the free computing we enjoy today is completely destroyed to the point we can only run government signed software, there's little you can do to defend against these things. To stop this, you will need tyranny the likes of which will destroy everything the word "hacker" stands for. I presumed you cared at least a little about that since you're posting on Hacker News.

  • Everything can be circumvented. I but this isn't some SaaS service, I don't need to survive forever, just about twelve hours. I can achieve that.

    Yeah, I grew up and realized that there's more to the world than mere developer convenience above all else. If Hacking means siding with the developer over everyone else in humanity and societal benefit, let it burn. Luckily, that's not my definition.

    • You're gonna insult me now? I'm a kid in fantasy land and you're the grown up dealing with the harsh world? Lol. You just admitted that irrelevance is your only leverage.

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