Comment by riku_iki

3 years ago

> Basically there is no way to ensure you have non-wiretapped connection to a virtual computer provided by hosting service.

so, I relied on market forces here, I hoped that major provider would protect their brand and do not do or allow to do such things, but looks like it is not the case for hetzner and linode.

what are you talking about?

the suggestion in these posts is that the German cops made them do it, which is exactly what happens to every provider in every country - they get a subpoena, they may fight it, if they lose they do whatever it is. every hosting (and transit and peering, I assume) provider in every country has an elaborate "lawful intercept" system already set up for secretly copying traffic to the feds / cops / intelligence services.

a hijacking of said LI system is what caused a huge scandal / deaths in greece ~twenty years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_wiretapping_case_2004–05

  • > which is exactly what happens to every provider in every country - they get a subpoena

    do we know cases of silent wiretapping in Google, MS, Amazon clouds?

    • Absence of proof isn't proof of absence.

      Do we know cases of Google/MS/Amazon fighting a targeted wiretapping subpoena and winning it? Do you think they would not have been served one?

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