Comment by crazygringo
2 years ago
Few people are going to want to move unless most people are moving. So there is a coordination and timing issue here.
I really wonder if there's going to be a new letter from OpenAI employees about demanding the board reinstate Sam and Greg and then resign -- but this time with an actual deadline that the undersigned declare their mass resignation if not met. A genuine letter of conditional resignation. No more "may choose to resign" -- this time, "do resign if".
Then everybody knows to move to Microsoft literally the next day, all at once.
Given the holiday, it seems like midnight the end of this Sunday would be suitable.
It's interesting how some forms of employee collective action (collective bargaining) are frowned upon in this forum, whereas the sentiment surrounding this is largely positive.
Another thing to chew on: Imagine if Googlers demanded that the board resign (which are the terms of Sam's reinstatement) or they all walk... I don't think they'd meet with nearly as much positive sentiment.
Finally we figured out a way to support collective action: utilize it in support of a CEO!
> It's interesting how some forms of employee collective action (collective bargaining) are frowned upon in this forum, whereas the sentiment surrounding this is largely positive.
Interesting, though sadly not very complex. The sentiment around this is so positive because they're backing up Altman, and he's garnered quite a cult lately.
Afaik, concrete examples of collective actions have been positive. It's just abstract ideas aren't always positive.
ex. Google's walkout [1]
[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18352275
I don't think collective bargaining is that frowned upon.
I guess what you are noticing is that there is a huge overlap between person cultists (fans of Altman, Musk, whatever) and disdain for that they are temporary being part of the lowly wage worker collective.