Comment by ipaddr
2 years ago
That's generalizing. Many immigrants from places other than India or China immigrate and don't find academic success at the same level. Why are these immigrants doing better than others. Part of it is cultural (placing social behind academics) and the negative pressure of lower marks. Part must be selection bias (the best and brightest come because of the hurdles they need to overcome to even get accepted).
We don't see these rates with latin American immigrants, African, Middle eastern or europeans. Part of that is opportunity locally (the best and brightest don't leave when opportunities exist locally).
You see so much more cheating with the first immigration group. Is that because learning isn't as important as grades? Why don't locals cheat more? Too much effort?
Has the false promises of education (education will fix all) registered as more apparent in the west and many are choosing to skip or is the system designed for other outcomes.
It is generalizing and I have no problems with that. This is how we create knowledge from observations. This is a complex, multi-faceted topic that can't be easily discussed in short replies.
Cultural differences and even geography play a role in answering your points. I'm a legal Latin American immigrant who came to the US for a high tech job and stayed. But most immigrants from my country come here illegally, so you don't observe the same selection bias of high achievers.
But I know many legal Latin American immigrants in high tech jobs. Most of their children are high achievers, and they are also often highly ranked in their companies (principal engineers, directors, VPs etc).
> But I know many legal Latin American immigrants in high tech jobs. Most of their children are high achievers, and they are also often highly ranked in their companies (principal engineers, directors, VPs etc).
So you agree that if a company has 0 latin people in tech with a sizable tech workforce and a lot if latin people in the area, something isn't right?
There could be something wrong, but not necessarily. Educational attainment is generally low in areas with "a lot of latin people" due to historical reasons, including prevalent illegal immigration.
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