Comment by armcat

2 years ago

Those impressive demos, e.g. the cup shuffling seem to have been "staged". The end results are correct, but the method of getting them is nowhere near as fluid and elegant as in the demo. They used a series of still images with carefully crafted prompts. More info: https://developers.googleblog.com/2023/12/how-its-made-gemin...

You don't seem to be responding to my post. I talked about two things I prompted Bard with, not the video.

Everyone fudges demo's, but does seem like Google fumbles them, they backfire.

When Bard 'hallucinates', their stock tanks.

When GPT 'hallucinates', it's all good.

This latest fumble does look pretty bad. A fudge to far.

  • > Everyone fudges demo's

    No, not everyone fudges demos. But some do, and Google has a track record of it.

    That said, it's common enough that I view all demos -- and especially those that I'm not seeing live in person -- with deep skepticism.

    • They are so commonly 'fake' that it is just an accepted industry trope.

      I've fallen for enough over-promised demo's that I now have hard time accepting anything.

      The question is, why does Google get hammered so hard for them?

      There must be something like human error-bars.

      You can fake to a certain extent, and we'll all nod and cut you some slack for the cool demo.

      But fake it just a little too far, and then everyone is like 'ok man, that is just too fake'.

      https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2018/05/pretty-much-all-tech-d...

      "" The movie Steve Jobs dramatises this famous fakery. The scene is set in the frantic moments just before Jobs presents the original Macintosh to the world in 1984. The Macintosh 128K can’t say “hello” as Jobs demands, so Apple engineer Andy Hertzfeld suggests using a more powerful 512K, which would not be available until later in 1984.

      And it’s what actually happened. “We decided to cheat a little,” the real Hertzfeld confirmed on his site Folklore. They really did switch out the machine so the demo would work.

      The on-stage demonstration Apple pioneered has since produced all manner of theatrics, some brilliant and some ham-handed, and all in their own ways not exactly real. Microsoft’s recent “workplace” demos at its Build developer conference are very clearly a dramatisation.

      Last year a man, hard hat at a cocky angle, strode across stage and pretended to use construction equipment wrong to show how Microsoft’s AI could identify and tag unsafe practices on a worksite. It was so garishly theatrical I don’t think anyone genuinely thought it was real. ""

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  • You do understand that Google have been constantly touting their "hidden" technology that is far beyond anything on the market? And now with various companies entering AI race and integrating AI in their toolset, it is expected that Google would have the best result using their "hidden advanced tech".

    Yet Google opted for staged demos, rather than the real "advanced" that they allegedly had. That raises questions from the stakeholders...