Comment by jjgreen

2 years ago

Funny how so many otherwise clever people get confused about this.

I would be surprised if clever people were actually confused about that. Only a rich person like PG can afford to say the emperor has no clothes.

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    • I dunno. I’m pretty sure I’m innocent of the horrors of the Iraq war even though I have been a US citizen over 60 years. Blaming civilians for the actions of their government is kind of what terrorists do.

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    • They were elected in 2006 (the last election in Palestine), with the average age of currently living Palestinians being somewhere around 2 years old. Not sure I'd hold them responsible for that election result.

    • By that logic I could put the Iraq war on your head, assuming you're American. Hamas supporters are complicit, but not all Gazans are.

    • 47%+ of the population of Palestine and Gaza are under the age of 18, and 75.9% are under the age of 35, which is how old they'd have to be to have voted Hamas back in 2006 when they had their last election.

      When almost 76% of a country has never had the ability to vote in an election, can you really say that it's disingenuous to claim that much of the people of Gaza are innocent victims?

Some people are confused sure, but honestly it is quite obvious that a lot of time when people say "Zionists" they actually just mean "Jews".

Looking at comments online, i'd argue that around 90%+ when someone uses the word "Zionism" they are just bigots.

If you genuinely want to criticize israel, just critique the country and its actions, the same you would do for any other country, no need to start talking about "Zionists" etc.

There's no confusion, had Israel or the US busted into civilian homes and raped and murdered women and children, live streaming it - Would you be fine with people marching down the streets the next day in middle eastern countries with Israeli or American flags saying the same thing?

  • That is the world we live in, not a hypothetical. That is why there are people marching down the streets.