That is your interpretation. Doesn’t mean it is true. Jewish organizations have joined the large pro-Palestinian marches in Toronto for example. It was a protest against the war and occupation, not about the religion.
It’s like saying that Israel marches are islamophobic. Saying it doesn’t make it true.
And yes, sometimes it does happen that there are antisemitic people that join those groups. But if they aren’t the organizers and are quickly excluded, we shouldn’t dismiss the whole movement. Some of us do not agree with the scale of the operations against civilians in Gaza, that is a valid view point.
You are not providing any counter-argument to my point.
Also, be careful what is meant by "occupation". You'll find that for some people it means that Israel is occupying and should be destroyed, as I mentioned previously.
@dang: I apologise, I tried to constructively contribute and, if you do read my comments carefully, not to take side too much or to be inflammatory.
I note that you allowed the thread to remain, which I have interpreted as we being allowed to comment...
> And yes, sometimes it does happen that there are antisemitic people that join those groups. But if they aren’t the organizers and are quickly excluded
I don't think you can easily say "this person is not an antisemite"
When you have entire groups organizing and deploying hostile rhetoric, referring to Jewish people themselves as "colonizers", that's drifting towards antisemitism
When you have universities selectively employing double standards where they will fire faculty over e.g. praising Brett Kavanaugh (I can find several other examples if you like) but suddenly "care" about free speech when the topic is related to Jewish people, it's hard to rule out the question of antisemitism there. Especially considering some of these universities had antisemitic policies historically
Dismantling the Israeli ethnostate is not the same thing as destruction or genocide of people living in Israel. I've seen many cases where the former is wilfully misinterpreted as the latter.
That is your interpretation. Doesn’t mean it is true. Jewish organizations have joined the large pro-Palestinian marches in Toronto for example. It was a protest against the war and occupation, not about the religion.
It’s like saying that Israel marches are islamophobic. Saying it doesn’t make it true.
And yes, sometimes it does happen that there are antisemitic people that join those groups. But if they aren’t the organizers and are quickly excluded, we shouldn’t dismiss the whole movement. Some of us do not agree with the scale of the operations against civilians in Gaza, that is a valid view point.
You are not providing any counter-argument to my point.
Also, be careful what is meant by "occupation". You'll find that for some people it means that Israel is occupying and should be destroyed, as I mentioned previously.
@dang: I apologise, I tried to constructively contribute and, if you do read my comments carefully, not to take side too much or to be inflammatory.
I note that you allowed the thread to remain, which I have interpreted as we being allowed to comment...
> And yes, sometimes it does happen that there are antisemitic people that join those groups. But if they aren’t the organizers and are quickly excluded
I don't think you can easily say "this person is not an antisemite"
When you have entire groups organizing and deploying hostile rhetoric, referring to Jewish people themselves as "colonizers", that's drifting towards antisemitism
When you have universities selectively employing double standards where they will fire faculty over e.g. praising Brett Kavanaugh (I can find several other examples if you like) but suddenly "care" about free speech when the topic is related to Jewish people, it's hard to rule out the question of antisemitism there. Especially considering some of these universities had antisemitic policies historically
The pro Israel side calls for the destruction of Palestine and genocide of it's people regularly.
https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1711865833121521939
Also https://twitter.com/theIMEU/status/1613971554412695553
Dismantling the Israeli ethnostate is not the same thing as destruction or genocide of people living in Israel. I've seen many cases where the former is wilfully misinterpreted as the latter.
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You've broken the site guidelines badly in this thread. We're going to have to ban accounts that keep doing that, so please stop now.
Needless to say, this goes regardless of which side of the conflict people are supporting.
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