Comment by bjourne

2 years ago

“We are asked to look for high-rise buildings with half a floor that can be attributed to Hamas,” said one source who took part in previous Israeli offensives in Gaza. “Sometimes it is a militant group’s spokesperson’s office, or a point where operatives meet. I understood that the floor is an excuse that allows the army to cause a lot of destruction in Gaza. That is what they told us.

“If they would tell the whole world that the [Islamic Jihad] offices on the 10th floor are not important as a target, but that its existence is a justification to bring down the entire high-rise with the aim of pressuring civilian families who live in it in order to put pressure on terrorist organizations, this would itself be seen as terrorism. So they do not say it,” the source added.

https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-cal...

The destruction levied in Gaza is not about achieving any military aims. It is about satiating the Israeli public's monstrous appetite for blood. The primary goal of the government is ensuring that it wins the next election too. Benjamin Netanyahu wasn't joking when he said "remember Amalek".

In your response I did not see your answer to the significant part of the question in parent comment. Which is:

“ What would you suggest Israel do if fighting hamas is not an option.”

Avoiding hard questions is easier as it doesn’t require responsibility. Are you able to provide your answer please to the hardest part of the parent comment?

  • This is the same false dilemma that the American war hawks posed prior to the invasion of Iraq in 2003. "What should we do if we can't invade Iraq??" You were then supposed to argue that the US had options and the hawks would then one by one attempt to disqualify those options. It's an incredibly dishonest way of conducting debate.

    Read the article I linked to. Then claim with a straight face that razing Gaza is the only option Israel has.

    • > Read the article I linked to. Then claim with a straight face that razing Gaza is the only option Israel has.

      Great comment and again no answer.

      You think question with suggestive answer is dishonest way of conducting debate? Ok. I get that. Let’s remove any suggestiveness from the question. “ What would you suggest Israel do if fighting hamas is not an option.”

      I am not OP an I personally did not suggest anything, I just wanted to see your responsible answer.

      So, what Israel should do in your opinion? And what outcome you expect after it does it?

      PS: I’ve read the article. Disappointed by the quality of it. It is written with intention of emotional impact and to push predefined agenda. It twists meaning by playing with words. I notice those tricks and can’t read it with keeping my face ‘straight’( using your word).

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    • answering to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38589929

      Are you a parrot or something?

      No, I am a person and you are exploring limits of my famous patience which is allowed only to my students as long as they wish to learn.

      Also I am very persuasive in following logic and being responsible for own words. The only sensible way to discuss hard issues and to keep being in sync in conversation.

      >Do you not understand that NOT killing 20k Palestinians in 60 days is an option (and answers your question)?

      Help me understand what you suggest exactly and what outcome you expect after Israel does it? Make your statement so we would be on the same page to discuss it. Then it actually would be possible to discuss it.

      Don’t you think you should be responsible with your words and understand consequences of things you suggest before opening your mouth about such sensitive topics? I am getting sick of irresponsible people spreading BS around without ever stating what they say or thinking through the consequences of the things they suggest.

      >I've posed several questions to you and you keep not answering them.

      This is because you didn’t answer one and only question I ever asked you in the first place.