Comment by Veserv

2 years ago

2-3 million dollars is not “amazing”. That is less than the cost to open a McDonalds. You can get a small business loan in the US for more than that. There are literally tens of millions of people in the world who can afford that. That is 1/5 the cost of a tank.

2-3 million dollars is pocket lint to people conducting serious business, let alone governments. It is at best okay if you are conducting minor personal business. This ignores the fact that attacks at the 2-3 million dollar range are trivially wormable. If you had actual cause to hack every phone you are only incurring marginal cents per attack. Even relatively minor attacks like targeting 10,000 people are less than one phone of cost per attack.

> 2-3 million dollars is not “amazing”.

I don't know. $2-3m for reading code in Ghidra and throwing stuff at a wall until something sticks? Maybe some fuzzing, etc.

I get that you theoretically could find an exploit that for example, you send to 100 known wealthy people, and with it you steal saved cookies + device IDs from financial apps and then try to transfer their funds/assets to an account you control but...

Could you really pull that off 100 times before Apple catches on?

I guess you could... easily... now that I think about it.

  • this has the (un)fortunate consequence of being illegal. Writing exploits and selling them to a friendly government, on the other hand, is totally legal. Plus, then you can sell support contracts for that sweet recurring revenue!

    • This also makes you a target for enemy services (for enabling "friendly government") and friendly services for being a potential whistleblower.

      Quite the cost in my eyes...