Comment by clows

2 years ago

> There's a strange dance of IDEs coming and going [...]

Intellij IDEA 1.0 was released in 2001 - is still in active development - and as far as I know the keyboard shortcuts are still the same (depending on the configuration one chooses)

The first Microsoft Visual Studio release was in 1997. XCode was first released in 2003.

Fog of the future not withstanding; most people aren't going to have been using IDEA since 1.0.

If you learned Java between 2001-2012 then the default was Eclipse or netbeans.

So you should not be comparing IDEA from 2001 to today (or any individual IDE), you should be comparing the IDE landscape or ecosystem of 2001 to today, and part of that analysis should be a requirement to weight IDE's based on popularity and the recommendations of established institutions (academia, companies).

  • So you've changed IDE once in 22 years? That doesn't change the argument in any meaningful way.

    • I know my school has changed IDE recommendation 7 times in 22 years.

      But my point is much, much broader than one persons experience.

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  • I was using Visual J++ in 1998.

    We did a bakeoff of Eclipse, NetBeans and IDEA upon its beta in 2001. IDEA won hands down and is still the IDE of choice among the developers who work on our codebase.