Comment by viraptor
2 years ago
I really don't agree with some of the expectations around results.
> Download youtube videos
> Ideally, the top hit would be yt-dlp or a thin, graphical, wrapper around yt-dlp. Links to youtube-dl or other less frequently updated projects would also be ok.
That's not what a random person expects. yt-dlp or youtube-dl have no meaning to a normie. The first result is an online downloader and that's what an average person is after. I checked the first result in Kagi and it's a valid youtube downloader.
If you're after a commandline tool, ask for it: "commandline tool download youtube videos" gives youtube-dl as the top result with valid options afterwards: https://kagi.com/search?q=commandline+tool+Download+youtube+...
"Ad blocker" seems to ignore other options exist. Yes, ublock would be preferable for most, but ABP is not "very bad". Kagi mentions ABP at position 1 and ublock at position 8: https://kagi.com/search?q=Ad+blocker&r=au&sh=4VHApDrTEfuxMOt... (But for a query like that, I'd be happy with a wikipedia article about adblockers, because why not?)
I'm not disagreeing that results have been getting worse for years, but... this is a really bad scoring system. It feels like that one very new person jumping on SO posting something like "syntax error: if 1 {" - what are you even asking for? (To be honest, the search engines could also give you the equivalent of "this is a very vague, would you like to specify what you're actually after? here are some suggestions: ...", but that's beyond the scope here.) The search returning not the exact thing you want to see for a super generic query, but returning a valid answer to a question is not "very bad".
If you try using it, the first result doesn't help you download a youtube video and does try to get you to install malware.
Results: https://kagi.com/search?q=download+youtube+videos&r=au&sh=Ow...
First one is https://wave.video/convert/youtube-to-mp4-355 It downloaded the first video just fine.
Interesting, over here that one gives me a 403 at "rr2---sn-p5qlsn7l.googlevideo.com" when I click "Download".
My thoughts exactly.