Comment by Animats
1 year ago
This should be looked at in light of the problems Israel faces. Israel is in serious danger of losing US support.[1][2] Outside of the US, there is very little support for what Israel is doing.[3] In the US, support is bought and paid for with political contributions. “If there was no lobby pushing Congress in a particular direction in a really forceful way, the position of the US Congress on the war in Gaza would be fundamentally different.”[4] The social media effort is only a small part of this.
[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/us-public-support-israel-drops...
[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/31/us/politics/us-israel-ham...
[3] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/12/united-nations...
[4] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/10/congress-mem...
It's not just social media... I think at this point, every newspaper I've read has more or less started saying that Israel is seriously screwing up, and there is especially unanimity in saying that Netanyahu needs to go.
I'm not going to try to enumerate Israel's mistakes, but when you decide to invite a coterie of journalists to the hospital you destroyed to provide proof of your claims that it was actually a hive center of terrorist activity, and all of them come away basically saying "this evidence isn't good enough," then that should be a sign that it's not PR that's the problem of Israel, it's Israeli actions that are the problem that needs addressing.
And on a personal level, I'm ashamed that my government is giving such unconditional support to a country that is acting in that manner.
Sorry, which hospital are you referring to?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/21/al-shifa-hos...
> The bare, white-tiled rooms showed no immediate evidence of use — for command and control or otherwise. There are no signs of recent habitation, including litter, food containers, clothing or other personal items.
> “This room was evacuated, and all the gear was evacuated. I guess it was evacuated when they knew or understand that we were going to enter Shifa Hospital,” Hagari said in the video.
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Americans really have the strangest views of Israeli politics. Bibi is about as moderate as you will find electable and maintain a gov’t there. All the alternates are worse.
I predict Congress will invite Bibi to a joint session of Congress to bolster support and let him trash a sitting Democratic President just like they did to Obama.
Then Bibi can visit Elon again and address any Trump talking points to the enjoyment of alt-nazis on X.
> I predict Congress will invite Bibi to a joint session of Congress to bolster support and let him trash a sitting Democratic President just like they did to Obama.
Interesting. Do you have a link of him coming into the whitehosue and trashing Obama? I assumed that relationship was fairly neutral after Obama gave him $40 Billion over the next 10 years.
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> Bibi is about as moderate as you will find electable
Netanyahu is not electable. I mean, Israelis do not "elect" their Prime Minister, but still.
> I predict Congress will invite Bibi to a joint session of Congress to bolster support and let him trash a sitting Democratic President just like they did to Obama.
They'd be helping Biden's reelection chances.
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Israel owns our politicians and those who cross them are cut off and via AIPAC they run candidates to replace them.
Losing US support? In what circumstances? We are printing billions to send to Israel with zero oversight.
They launched a $100 million fund to oust “the squad“ & offered $20 million to people to run against them.
Now take a look over on Maui, in La Haina, where US citizens are still having to pay mortgages on the houses that were burned to the ground. Dust & Ash. Where are our aircraft carriers from the pacific fleet bringing infrastructure, supplies, Seabees, Army Corps of engineering and the best minds to rebuild OUR OWN GOD DAMNED communities?
Between AIPAC & DMFI they have hands on most politicians.
Look at the amount of money they’ve spent on Biden—-who proudly states his is a Zionist. Look at Blinken & his background—Google him and his family.
There is zero means to even cobble up a group of politicians to vote against anything regarding Israel.
39 US STATES have laws outlawing BDS or any boycott of Israel if you work for state funded positions. Why? Who funded those laws?
There is zero neutrality & how on earth does our American government portray themselves as diplomats or influencers towards Israel? Or earnest negotiators?
Between our secret military bases there and arms depots and unlimited funding for weapons & aid.
The American public is not aligned with that at all, but that doesn’t matter. PACS & Dark money controls this. Feeding the military industrial complex.
It will take other governments & international courts to change this. We’ll see what happens on Thursday & Friday.
The US has rendered the UN impotent with their security council vetoes.
AIPAC & DMFI should be regulated as foreign lobbyists.
Everything you’ve written is factual and if you wrote it about any other country there would be an outcry. Instead, writing this under your real name will get you fired and could genuinely destroy your life. Isn’t that a bit strange?
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> Israel is in serious danger of losing US support
I don't see it happening. Israel has some kind of connection to the US that overrides pretty much anything that Israel does. If you look at any presidential address, Israel's flag is there. I don't think that is just because Israel is our partner. Israel must have something pretty important that we depend on.
Hopefully it’ll get just too much to stomach (although that point should have been reached a long time ago).
Robert Maxwell was Epstein’s mistresses father. We know that Israel has the best in person intel, why would that be limited to the Middle East? Coupled with the long record of nuclear espionage by Israelis it’s not a stretch to think they have a pile of compromat on the NSC and related power groups in the US (Congress, judges, administrators)
They are throwing millions at US politicians left and right, they're not loosing the US support they're loosing the young generation that are on tiktok
Good! They should be in serious danger of losing US support!