Comment by Kranar

1 year ago

act.il has never received any government funding. It was an entirely grassroots organization with no affiliation to the Israeli government.

Please stop spreading misinformation.

You are wrong. It is part of a campaign called 4il which is supported and spearheaded by the staffed by the Israeli Strategic Affairs Ministry. Act.il's is staffed by former intelligence officers and its founder and CEO is former intelligence officer Yarden Ben Yosef who said that "both Israels military and the Shin Bet security service were making specific requests from Act.il for its help in getting violent anti-Israel videos removed from Facebook and other platforms." before walking the statement back. If you call that no affiliation, then you're spreading misinformation.

https://archive.is/ERHPN#selection-2055.97-2055.288 https://archive.is/BR10K

  • I'm wrong about what? A specific claim was made that act.il receives funding from the Israeli government and that is simply false. Nothing you've presented in any of your posts indicates in anyway whatsoever that the Israeli government has funded act.il

    The very link you present even states that the army and Shin Bet do not request help from act.il.

    It's in the very next sentence from the one you chose to highlight.

    • You obviously didn't read the original source: "Watchdog The Seventh Eye revealed that Israel’s Ministry of Strategic Affairs spent almost $2 million on one propaganda campaign in 2017 – part of which was allocated to Act.IL."

      And it links to an article at https://www.972mag.com/the-israeli-government-is-paying-for-... "Another large sum (from the Israeli Ministry of Strategic Affairs), around NIS 2 million ($570,000), was budgeted for building the Act.il website and producing multi-media content for it."

      You're strangely confident that act.il getting government funding is "simply false" when you're simply wrong.

      So explain just how the post was misleading.

On the question of funding, I must partially apologize, I did muddle things. I based my comments on a separate article on this topic, not the OP, and forgot that fact. While I still support my claims, I didn't explain that it was based on further research not present in the OP, and hence, my whole bit about "within your own post" was way too strong: https://electronicintifada.net/content/inside-israels-millio...

> Watchdog The Seventh Eye revealed that Israel’s Ministry of Strategic Affairs spent almost $2 million on one propaganda campaign in 2017 – part of which was allocated to Act.IL.

> A global influence campaign funded by the Israeli government had a $1.1 million budget last year, a document obtained by The Electronic Intifada shows.

> In its annual report, from January, Act.IL says its goal is to “influence foreign publics” and “battle” BDS – the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement for Palestinian rights.

I think that's a reasonably credible source, but you may disagree. The EI piece is a compilation of other people's work, in particular, The Seventh Eye, affiliated with +972.

On your point about "affiliation", that is clearly false, based on the OP article, and numerous other (more universally credible) sources, such as Forward[1], and Haaretz[2].

[1] https://forward.com/news/388259/shadowy-israeli-app-turns-am...

> The Herzliya headquarters is the base of Act.il, a hybrid Israel advocacy effort and online information operation. A joint project of two Israeli not-for-profits, it is led by former Israeli intelligence officers and has close ties to Israel’s intelligence services, its Ministry of Strategic Affairs and American Jewish casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson. Act.il’s leaders frame the program as an effort to counterbalance anti-Israel attitudes online.

> “We know each other,” he said of his group’s relationship with members of Israel’s intelligence community. “You don’t get [sent] a link to [a specific video]. We talk with each other. We work together.”

[2] https://archive.md/newest/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-new...

> A pro-Israel social media advocacy app that partners with the Israeli Strategic Affairs Ministry is asking activists to influence Googles search results for the term BDS.

> Strategic Affairs Minister Gilad Erdan (Likud) told the plenum that “boycott organizations are spread out geographically and act in different areas. The organizations built a network of activity and act in coordination with the Palestinian Authority. There is a campaign of falsehoods fueling hate.”

> ”Since this is a battlefront like any other, the ministry put together a strategy for running the campaign against this phenomenon,” Minister Erdan stated.

> ”One of the principles for success is keeping our methods of action secret…Since most of the ministry’s actions are not of the ministry, but through bodies around the world who do not want to expose their connection with the state, we must protect the information whose exposure could harm the battle.”

The fact of the affiliation and funding being somewhat opaque in official records must also be balanced against the fact that it is government policy to enforce this opacity: https://archive.md/20190611095349/https://main.knesset.gov.i...

> Strategic Affairs Minister Gilad Erdan (Likud) told the plenum that “boycott organizations are spread out geographically and act in different areas. The organizations built a network of activity and act in coordination with the Palestinian Authority. There is a campaign of falsehoods fueling hate.”

> ”Since this is a battlefront like any other, the ministry put together a strategy for running the campaign against this phenomenon,” Minister Erdan stated.

> ”One of the principles for success is keeping our methods of action secret…Since most of the ministry’s actions are not of the ministry, but through bodies around the world who do not want to expose their connection with the state, we must protect the information whose exposure could harm the battle.”

I don't know whether the specific legislation went into effect. Regardless, it clearly states that "actions [...] not of the ministry, but through bodies around the world" is an ongoing strategy for their success (in their view).