Comment by Sporktacular

1 year ago

All wars end when one side gives up.

Attacks and land theft on West Bank Palestinians are at a record high too. This will only end with the creation of a viable Palestinian state.

"This is war, there will be loss of life" is such a callous way to dismiss the disproportionality of this conflict.

> when one side gives up. > disproportionality of this conflict

Why is disproportionality meaningful at all? Clearly Israel is under attack. They have full right to subdue those attacks through all means necessary. I would hope every government provides the same for their people (and it is so easy to criticize Israel with all of us coming from countries that do protect our safety). Unfortunately Hamas has no regard for Palestinian lives, the best possible outcome for the Palestinians is Hamas giving up.

  • Why is disproportionality meaningful ? Why is 695 dead Israeli civilians against 15-20000 dead Palestinian civilians meaningful? Because it goes to the hypocritical heart of what a life is worth to a tribesman.

    And no they DO NOT have full right to subdue those attacks through all means necessary. There are laws to warfare. Dropping large bombs on a densely populated area of civilians is a breach of those laws. Find another way to get rid of Hamas but show respect civilian life.

    • I think in the history of warfare - especially when looking at wars that successfully and positively changed the course of history - winning usually requires one to "take it to the people" - especially when its a populace that at a minimum passively supports the regime that produces continuous warfare.

      I specifically think of Japan and Germany in World War II. To a lesser extent, I think of the American South in the American Civil War.

      My thinking here is greatly influenced by this fascinating book.

      https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/7687279

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