Comment by Sporktacular
1 year ago
Do you believe 695 Israeli civilians, 373 security forces and 71 foreigners, giving a total of 1,139? They're all numbers from the Israeli government.
Weird how only disputing the Hamas numbers as biased is a talking point.
It is way easier to verify those numbers though, there is an actual list of names and journalists can (and have) talk to the families etc.
And from talking to families and people on the ground there there are some reports that IDF killed many Isreali civilians on that day [1]. The extent is not obvious without independent investigation of course.
[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/idf-mistakenly-hit-festival-...
Lists of names for Palestinian victims are published as well: https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2024/israel-war-on-gaz...
True, verifying 695 deaths is easier than 30 times that number. Also convenient then that journalists are allowed to safely operate there.
kinda different comparing a state with an organization that was caught lying about death statistics numerous times in the past [1] and including in this war (such as the ali ahli hospital incident).
it should raise some questions how the casualty count went to 500 in a few hours, where everywhere else in the world it takes days to get a body count after any disaster
It is beyond me how someone can believe that an organization capable of kidnapping babies to advance its political goals is beyond lying to do the same
[1] https://www.haaretz.com/2010-11-09/ty-article/hamas-admits-6...
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> Weird how only disputing the Hamas numbers as biased is a talking point.
Why are you surprised that people trust Israel more than Hamas? Israel is a country that's ranked 29 of 167 on the Democracy Index[1], right _above_ the US. Hamas is literally a terrorist organization recognized in many countries, probably yours too.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index
So what? Democracies can't lie? Israel hasn't?
Hamas is a known bad actor - with a variety of incidences discrediting their “reporting”.