Comment by sebzim4500
1 year ago
It is way easier to verify those numbers though, there is an actual list of names and journalists can (and have) talk to the families etc.
1 year ago
It is way easier to verify those numbers though, there is an actual list of names and journalists can (and have) talk to the families etc.
And from talking to families and people on the ground there there are some reports that IDF killed many Isreali civilians on that day [1]. The extent is not obvious without independent investigation of course.
[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/idf-mistakenly-hit-festival-...
Lists of names for Palestinian victims are published as well: https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2024/israel-war-on-gaz...
True, verifying 695 deaths is easier than 30 times that number. Also convenient then that journalists are allowed to safely operate there.
kinda different comparing a state with an organization that was caught lying about death statistics numerous times in the past [1] and including in this war (such as the ali ahli hospital incident).
it should raise some questions how the casualty count went to 500 in a few hours, where everywhere else in the world it takes days to get a body count after any disaster
It is beyond me how someone can believe that an organization capable of kidnapping babies to advance its political goals is beyond lying to do the same
[1] https://www.haaretz.com/2010-11-09/ty-article/hamas-admits-6...
There are lies and errors. From both sides. But the 26000 figure is generally accepted by the UN and aid agencies. Figures from Hamas in previous conflicts have been confirmed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel–Hamas... https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gaza-death-toll-records-1.7010...
Simply dismissing a figure as skewed because of its source without a better one is a weak argument.
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