Comment by reissbaker
1 year ago
Yeah yeah you're still trying to cite the single opinion piece that has no sources for Hamas supposedly being willing to make peace. Hamas's official statements on "peace" are here: https://thehill.com/video/hamas-we-will-repeat-oct-7-terror-...
And their 2017 charter didn't say they were willing to make peace with Israel; in fact it only stated that it was justified to continue fighting Israel as it claims it's an occupying power. Hamas views all of Israel to be "occupied," not just 1967 borders, so that is a call for permanent war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter
Hamas offered to join the PLO
No they didn't. Why do you keep claiming that? They ran against Fatah in 2021: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Palestinian_legislative...
And once again, the PLO doesn't exist.
Running in PA elections doesn't mean anything about their "peace" plans; they ran in 2006 and certainly had no peace plans then either: they had a charter that literally called for the genocide of the Jews (not Israelis! Not "Zionists." Jews).
Brooklyn doesn't get to decide that
I am not from Brooklyn, nor is any government involved here based in Brooklyn, so I can only assume you're being rabidly antisemitic here.
> And their 2017 charter didn't say they were willing to make peace with Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter (ctrl+f peace)
> No they didn't. Why do you keep claiming that? They ran against Fatah in 2021
Running against Fatah does not mean they can't join the PLO, which is an umbrella organization for establishing the Palestinian State (made up of several rival political factions): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Liberation_Organizat...
> Brooklyn
You said Palestinians in the West Bank were objectively "far better", which is completely disregarding their plight against anti-Arab far-right Kahanists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane originally from Brooklyn) that control those lands.
> so I can only assume you're being rabidly antisemitic here
Rabidly? There we go. https://mondoweiss.net/2023/09/jewish-settlers-stole-my-hous... Nothing about the point being made, just a lot of smear.
Yeah, if you ctrl-f "peace" on that page, you'll see it doesn't appear in the charter at all, not sure why you're copy-pasting the link and saying "ctrl-f" as if it were a gotcha. Similarly, posting random articles about Jewish settlers supposedly stealing someone's home is not an argument for why your very weird "Brooklyn" statement wasn't just rabid antisemitism.
Good luck; not going to keep responding to you.
Edit: I see you have now stealth-edited your comment and are pretending that "Brooklyn doesn't get to decide that" as a response to me saying that the PA is doing better economically and in terms of the security of its people, is supposedly referencing Kahanists. I am not a Kahanist, and am not from Brooklyn, and this is literally the first time you've brought up Kahanists in this discussion (and no, Kahanists do not control the PA, or Ramallah, or Jenin, or whatever), so nice try but not especially convincing.
Stealth edited? That literally was the point I was making and since it flew over your head, I had to make it explicit. Anyways, good luck with the advocacy and/or intimidation. Need plenty of it given the blowback: https://archive.is/blQkz