Comment by JeremyNT

1 year ago

You are correct according to this tweet [0]. That may become inaccessible as Nitter dies, but the text is:

> Working on an endless crafting game with llama 2

along with a video of this game.

[0] https://nitter.cz/nealagarwal/status/1747284257582506102#m

Ahh, neat application of it. Explains the somewhat dubious combinations I was seeing.

  • Forest + fire = smoke

    Mud + water = swamp

    Swamp + plant = Venus Flytrap

    Okay, okay.

    Venus Flytrap + Smoke = smoke detector

    <confused smile meme>

  • I think it’s the first time AI has made me chuckle. I ended up with “Riddle”, so I combined that with “Tornado” and it gave me “Twister” which I thought was a great Christmas Cracker pun, and then when I combined Riddle with “Bottle” it gave me “Genie”.

  • Here’s all the combinations I’ve came up with so far: Swamp + Mud = Quagmire Divorce + God = Odd Sun + Hourglass = Time Glass + Hourglass = Time Ice + Oasis = Penguin Sand + Stone = Pyramid Mirage + Time = Illusion Dinosaur + Lightning = Godzilla Oasis + Water = Mirage Egg + Time = chicken Golem + tide = Titan Titan + time = Chronos Poseidon + lighting = Zeus Titan + Chronos = Cronus Time + Fire = Sun Sun * Titan = Apollo Ash + Mud = Clay Godzilla + Love = God ? + ? = Spongebob Unicorn+Gold=Alchemy Unicorn+Alchemy = Philosopher’s Stone Gold+Alchemy=Midas swamp+chicken=duck duck+roast=goose goose+goose=flock flock+wind=flight Narwhal+time=unicorn Lightning + Treasure = lots of stuff (Rich, idk Narwhal+unicorn=narwhalicorn Jonah+time=narwhal Whale+oasis=jonah Plant+seed=tree noah+ark=flood curse+jesus=cross bank+intrest=money dandelion+cactus=desert Back to the future+riddle=time travel back to the future+time=delorian Desert+indiana jones=tresure

Off topic, why is nitter dying? I've noticed the main instance's SSL cert is down for a bit now, and other instances are pretty rate limited. Did something happen/change?

Neat.

Campfire+sushi took about 10 seconds before it gave up and did not combine them.

  • The request looks like "https://neal.fun/api/infinite-craft/pair?first=Phoenix&secon..." so it's probably typically caching the combination of phoenix+seeds but if there is no cache entry it would use llama to make up something. If there's a lot of attention on the site the llm service might be down or overloaded. And given the exponential/factoral (?) amount of combinations this may be reached surprisingly quickly. Just a guess.

    As an aside, the game is technically interesting, being a really simple example of using llm generation for game mechanics. But it is not engaging at all and feels nonsensical to me, especially when compared to little alchemy https://littlealchemy2.com/.

    I'm not trying to be negative and this isn't a dig on creativity of the wonderful Neal but more points to the immaturity of llms applied to games, maybe to my overexposure to chatgpt, and maybe a prediction that human touch will always be required to make something entertaining. I'm curious how llms will fit into an engaging game experience in the future.

    • >As an aside, the game is technically interesting, being a really simple example of using llm generation for game mechanics. But it is not engaging at all and feels nonsensical to me

      You just gotta make a game out of it.

      For example challenge yourself to try to craft "pizza".

      Can even try to do it in as least number of crafts as possible.

      Point is, just crafting random things to see what it spits out is OK, but trying to use your own logic to combine things to get to an arbitrary solution you come up with is much more engaging, at least to me.

      Challenge your friends to craft some specific "thing". Think of something you might think could be hard to craft to, and ask them to do the same and see who can get there first, or in the fewest steps.

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    • > But it is not engaging at all and feels nonsensical to me, especially when compared to little alchemy https://littlealchemy2.com/.

      On the other hand, Little Alchemy doesn't have answers to the most basic combinations. Air + Earth = Dust, but Dust doesn't combine with Water. Earth + Water = Mud, but Mud doesn't combine with Air. Earth + Earth = Land, but Land doesn't combine with Fire.

      It may be more sensical since it limits combinations to 0.01% of what's possible, but I don't think that makes it more interesting.

  • There's tons of combinations that take forever and nothing ends up happening. That's how I got around to the comment thread (clean+satan is why I'm here): I'm waiting for the latest combination to time out

    • Similar. Snowmobile Farm and Sandbox Farm both appear to timeout with no response.

      However, that said, the idea itself is a neat idea, and could quite easily be turned into game ideas somewhere.

    • They seem to be asynchronous, e.g. you can actually combine several pairs at the same time.