Comment by MrBuddyCasino
1 year ago
"when i was there it was so sad to me that none of the senior leadership in deepmind dared to question this ideology
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i watched my colleagues at nvidia (like @tunguz), openai (roon), etc. who were literally doing stuff that would get you kicked out of google on a daily basis and couldn't believe how different google is"
Aleksa Gordić, https://x.com/gordic_aleksa/status/1760266452475494828
Interestingly enough the same terror of political correctness seems to take center stage at Mozilla. But then it seems much less so at places like Microsoft or Apple.
I wonder if there’s a correlation with being a tech company that was founded in direct relation to the internet vs. being founded in relation to personal / enterprise computing, and how that sort of seeds the initial culture.
Is Microsoft really better? Remember this[1] bizarre intro during Microsoft Ignite?
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBRtucXGeNQ
The "land acknowledgement" part is somewhat common in the Pacific Northwest.
The "stating my appearance, dress, and race" is just bizarre. My most charitable interpretation is that they're trying to help visually impaired people to imagine what the speakers look like. Perhaps there are visually impaired users here who could comment on whether that's something they'd find helpful?
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It's cringy, but it's harmless.
I’d imagine Google’s culture is more Mao-ist public shaming. Here at Mozilla, we like Stalin. Go against the orthodoxy? You’re disappeared and killed quickly.
We have hour long pronoun training videos for onboarding; have spent millions on DEI consultants from things like Paradigm to boutique law firms; tied part of our corporate bonus to company DEI initiatives.
Not sure why anyone uses FF anymore. We barely do any development on it. You basically just sit here and collect between 150-300k depending on your level as long as you can stomach the bullshit.
I really doubt there are any Stalinists at Mozilla. My 85 y/o grandpa who's a communist's communist calls the modern DEI left "Trotskyists to a fault": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trotskyism
He would dismiss any whiff of intersectionality as "dividing the working class in the interests of bourgeoisie."
Or perhaps it's Google's hiring process - they are so obsessed with Leetcode-style interviews, they do not vet for the actual fit.
If it was just leetcode I think they would have gotten someone who was politically incorrect enough to point it out.
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Must be why, despite the fact that I can recognise OpenAI's product does have clear biases against affluent groups, it seems well intentioned and proportionate. It's clear the internet is bias not just towards the data of the affluent, but also the viewpoints and prejudices, so a reasonable person can recognise there is some unfairness and a bit of a problem. Also that any solution to this problem will be imperfect.
Whereas with Google, I just have to imagine they let some bigot go wild, and everybody was afraid to say anything about how fucking bad the product was due to the optics, so nothing kept them in check.