Comment by sshine

1 year ago

What's spend limit?

Autoscaling is a feature!

I guess we need regulation for this.

  • Why do we need regulation? "Keep the service up no matter what happens, no matter the cost" is a useful business model for companies that make the mistake of promising too many nines to their customers.

    The issue at hand is that people put small websites on hosting providers designed for megacorporation wealth, like Netlify. I highly doubt the average blog needs more than a $10 VPS located in one single country without automatic fallback to another data centre. You can probably even go with a $5 VPS if you don't care about the first wave of HN front page bots not being able to reach your site.

    • > You can probably even go with a $5 VPS...

      You wouldn't believe the amount of times I've said this and the response was "but it costs me nothing right now"...

    • > "Keep the service up no matter what happens, no matter the cost" is a useful business model

      I mean, yeah - but that shouldn't be the default and it shouldn't be something that you can't opt out of if it is, which is what sounds like happened with Netlify.

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  • We don't need regulation for everything. Let customers vote with their wallet or even start a few lawsuits.

    Adding more regulation makes the system slower.

    • I'd be in favour of a regulation to allow them to set a spend limit, opt-out.

      I'm fine with their pricing structure right now, since you have PLENTY of providers to choose from - people can easily vote with their wallets and there's no problem that needs solving.

      However, the unexpected spikes are a problem, and providers seemingly don't provide any way to solve them because they make more money by not solving them. A regulation to require all providers of post-billed services to provide spending limits would make a lot of sense.

      Of course, customers should also have the option to opt out of the limit or set a very high limit.

      This should apply to any service that's billed by usage calculated afterwards, not just web hosting, and not just technology.

  • Or, rather than creating more regulations, people could read the contracts they agree to when they get service, and use a competitor if they don't like it

    • There is such a thing as an unfair contract. Moreover, there are business practices that can become a local maxima in an industry and squeeze out competition which would actually be a net benefit to most consumers. Mobile roaming was the same before the EU intervened, and were now going back to the shitshow tjat preceded it in the uk.

    • I don't know many people knowledgeable enough to read and understand legalese. Except lawyers ofc.