Comment by fn-mote

1 year ago

> In recent years, automakers [...] have started offering optional features in their connected-car apps that rate people’s driving.

At least the programs are (currently) opt-in.

This amusing anecdote is buried:

> One driver lamented having data collected during a “track day,” while testing out the Corvette’s limits on a professional racetrack. > [...] he was denied auto insurance by seven companies [...]

There is another commenter further up that says they had to opt out on a Toyota and the rep acted like he didn't know until the opt out text was read verbatim.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39667268

  • I just purchased a Camry Hybrid from a Toyota dealership. The operator tried to tell me that "because I financed it they cannot turn off analytics." I had not financing, paid cash.

    Pressing the SOS button to cancel [as sticker suggested] was met with so much difficulty that (while the operator was on the line still) I found the fuse panel and pulled out `DCS` to disconnect the call/tracking. This ended our trasmission.

But are they really optional? I can’t imagine that the telematics link is going unused for the value it provides (i.e. crowd-sourcing for speed and road map data).

The worst part is that assumptions about who’s driving the vehicle.

I would be willing to bet even if you told the insurance companies it was totally legal on a professional race track -- they'd say "Nope, we still don't want to insure someone that takes his car on professional race tracks like that."

> At least the programs are (currently) opt-in.

The article makes clear that most people don't know what's happening with their data. They opt into something else and this data collection is included - that doesn't sound like much of an 'option'.

Your quote is misleading. The "he" is in the next paragraph and refers to someone else who owns a Cadillac, not a Corvette.

The track day thing probably was the funniest thing in the article, though.