Comment by Mgtyalx

2 years ago

@dang Please consider that this is an important and well sourced article regarding military use of AI and machine learning and shouldn't disappear because some users find it upsetting.

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Garvi  2 years ago

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  • skilled  2 years ago

    That is not the case at all.

    See this comment from dang:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39435024

    There are more comments like this from him, you can find them using Algolia.

    HN is not acting in bad faith whatsoever.

    This story in particular “qualifies” for what would be interesting to HN readers while taking into account the sensitivity of the subject.

    I fully expect the discussion to be allowed and the flag lifted, but HN mod team is very small and it might take a while - it quite literally always does.

    • mdekkers  2 years ago

      Agreed. Also take into account how this and a few mirror discussions are rapidly degrading into “x are bad” political discussions which are just not that intere here.

    • Garvi  2 years ago

      People believing admins when they claim moderation and censorship is out of their hands and the result of a faulty system they have no control over, has to take the cake for this years distortion of reality.

      Fact is very specific topics are routinely being suppressed systematically.

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jarenmf  2 years ago

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  • supposemaybe  2 years ago

    I would like to know if the AI is deciding to starve the entire population and kill aid workers?

    It’s a serious question, because the article mentions how AI plays such a crucial role… but where does it end?

    I know the following question sounds absurd, but they say there’s no such thing as a silly question…

    Does the AI use regular power to run, or does it run on the tears and blood of combatant 3 year old children - I mean terrorists?

    • xpe  2 years ago

      > I know the following question sounds absurd, but they say there’s no such thing as a silly question…

      People say a lot of things.

      Some questions are ill-posed; some bake-in false assumptions.

      What you do _after_ you concoct a question is important. Is it worth our time answering?

      > Does the AI use regular power to run, or does it run on the tears and blood of combatant 3 year old children - I mean terrorists?

      From where I sit, the question above appears to be driven mostly by rhetoric or confusion. I'm interested in reasoning, evidence, and philosophy. I don't see much of that in the question above. There are better questions, such as:

      To what degree does a particular AI system have values? To what degree are these values aligned with people's values? And which people are we talking about? How are the values of many people aggregated? And how do we know with confidence that this is so?

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  • snird  2 years ago

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    • NickC25  2 years ago

      >The HN crowd is overly enthusiastic to see Jews die, if anything.

      I wouldn't be so quick to say that. I would guess that 99.99999% of us at a bare minimum don't want to see any innocent people die, regardless of ethnicity, religious creed, nationality, etc. In fact, I'd wager my life savings and my company on the guess that most rational adults don't want to see innocent people die regardless of where in the world they are. HN is no different.

      Israel is not 100% scot-free and innocent here, and that needs to be stressed. I don't condone Hamas's behavior at all (it's abhorrent), nor do I condone bombing a clearly-marked vehicle delivering humanitarian aid (also abhorrent).

      Also, Israel =! all jewish people world wide. You'll find some of Israel's largest criticisms come from non-Israeli Jews.

d--b  2 years ago

Should have the ability to turn off comments for these.