No, the "other option" is to realize that keeping people in what is effectively little more than a concentration camp with no hope of perspective or solution can only end in violence. Especially if you also start shooting the peaceful protestors like they did a few years ago. And then the government goes in to bed with the most extreme of extreme religious Zionists who quite literally support ethnic cleansing and murder.
That is not a justification or a moral judgement, it's just a fact that this will happen. This is what has always happened throughout history. To deny it is to deny reality.
Something Oct-7 shaped was bound to happen. You can't kick people in the face for 50 years, give no perspective for improvement, kick them harder in the face when they object, and expect all of them to forever turn the other cheek and have carefully nuanced opinions on the matter. That's just not how people work.
Current actions are not just killing Palestinians, it's also killing (future) Israeli. A new Oct-7 shaped event is bound to happen again if the current course is followed.
None of this is rocket science. None of this is a novel insight. People have been saying this for decades (have we forgotten the previous events like the intifada, the wide-spread protests 5 years ago, etc. etc.)? Some people were seemingly born on the morning of Oct 7 or something.
Egypt and Hamas have a rather adversarial relationship, But let's not pretend Israel and Egypt are anywhere near equivalent.
And Israel controls much of the comings and goings of the Rafah crossing, if that's what you're referring to. Egypt doesn't want any trouble with Israel, doesn't really like Hamas, and is also not really looking forward to a mass exodus of impoverished Palestinians as it's already a poor and extremely densely populated country with its own problems.
Could Egypt do better? I suppose. But it's nowhere near equivalent. Egypt is in a near-impossible position.
No, the "other option" is to realize that keeping people in what is effectively little more than a concentration camp with no hope of perspective or solution can only end in violence. Especially if you also start shooting the peaceful protestors like they did a few years ago. And then the government goes in to bed with the most extreme of extreme religious Zionists who quite literally support ethnic cleansing and murder.
That is not a justification or a moral judgement, it's just a fact that this will happen. This is what has always happened throughout history. To deny it is to deny reality.
Something Oct-7 shaped was bound to happen. You can't kick people in the face for 50 years, give no perspective for improvement, kick them harder in the face when they object, and expect all of them to forever turn the other cheek and have carefully nuanced opinions on the matter. That's just not how people work.
Current actions are not just killing Palestinians, it's also killing (future) Israeli. A new Oct-7 shaped event is bound to happen again if the current course is followed.
None of this is rocket science. None of this is a novel insight. People have been saying this for decades (have we forgotten the previous events like the intifada, the wide-spread protests 5 years ago, etc. etc.)? Some people were seemingly born on the morning of Oct 7 or something.
According to your logic, Hamas will also inevitably murder thousands of Egyptians as well. No?
Egypt and Hamas have a rather adversarial relationship, But let's not pretend Israel and Egypt are anywhere near equivalent.
And Israel controls much of the comings and goings of the Rafah crossing, if that's what you're referring to. Egypt doesn't want any trouble with Israel, doesn't really like Hamas, and is also not really looking forward to a mass exodus of impoverished Palestinians as it's already a poor and extremely densely populated country with its own problems.
Could Egypt do better? I suppose. But it's nowhere near equivalent. Egypt is in a near-impossible position.
> The other option here is carpet bomb a la Drezden
Right. Because there are always just two options when you're designing a strategy.
You act like people individually have agency to make sweeping changes of how the world works
> Why is it barbarism?
Because the civilian death toll far outweighs the militant casualties?
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Hamas’s Oct 7th attack also had a 2:1 civilian to soldier death ratio, so about the same as this “most efficient urban war in history”.
“The latest death toll from the attack is now 767 civilians, 20 hostages and 376 members of the security forces, giving a total of 1,163. One person remains missing.” https://www.barrons.com/news/new-tally-puts-october-7-attack...
Wow, I've seen that a few times. That opinion piece really did its job.
> The other option here is carpet bomb a la Drezden
As if that is the only other option.
How has Israel succeeded in rescuing hostages so far? With the exception of one, the answer is negotiation.
As for the removing Hamas part, could you share an example of a terrorist organisation being bombed out of existence?
More targeted with half a million dead? Sounds like you forgot to take your not crazy pills.
The ~400,000 figure is WITHOUT targeted technology, obviously.
Why do you rush to attack?