Comment by trimethylpurine

2 years ago

>Israeli Jews have always been at forefront in sabotaging all efforts at peace

I'm not seeing that. I'm seeing that they offered a 98% land swap that is extremely contrary to your claim. (That's not the only time Israel agreed to a two state solution, either.)

Let's look at your other argument.

>because some muslim fundamentalists and secular pro-Palestinians have usurped the slogan for their own cause

"From the river to the sea" is in the Gaza charter. If it's Netanyahu's slogan then we must also conclude that it's so inspirational to Gaza's government that they wanted to include it in their constitution. That doesn't sound like "some." That sounds like the government of Gaza, regardless of how much citizen support, is intent on conquest and extermination.

You're also acting like "from the river to the sea" is bad for Israel to say. Those are Israel's borders. Any less than that means they need to evacuate somewhere. India isn't offering to accept 12 million Israelis for immigration. Right? If they are, it would be easier to accept 2 million Gazans.

Of course that's what Gaza included in the charter. They want Israel erased. They want the Jews dead. That's also in their charter. It's very specific. They didn't mince words there. It says the rocks will divulge that Jews are hiding behind them so that they can be killed. I encourage you to read it.

Israel, however, has no intention of conquering Gaza. It withdrew completely from Gaza, nearly 20 years ago. Gaza invaded Israel. Not the other way around. They are now occupying Gaza as a response. But they were not occupying Gaza before October.

If you are going to bring up the import restrictions, you should criticize Egypt too. They are also on that front. Why pick on Israel? Egypt is the bigger army.

>you were cowards to not stand up to your genocidal leaders

I don't have a horse in the race, so "you" isn't really appropriate. But this is exactly what people are thinking about Gaza, that they are cowards not to stand up to their genocidal government that beheads children and films it.

Regardless, you still haven't given a single viable solution.

It looks to me like Israel has no choice, as you've proven here. You're criticizing a victim forced to act in a way no one likes. Gazas' goal is to make you not like Israel by forcing it to act. They won you over with baby beheading and terror apparently.

Do you feel it's okay for Gaza to invade Israel?

Would it be okay for Pakistan to invade India?

What about if Pakistan's founding documents direct all Pakistanis that all Indians must die? Is that acceptable?

Why should that be acceptable to anyone?

The previous commenter didn't say "Israeli Jews have always been at the forefront of sabotaging peace" (which would have been a nationalist slur that presumably would have been flagged off the site); they said "fundamentalist Israeli Jews" --- a particular minority cohort of Israeli Jewish people with particular policy goals.