Comment by yifanl

7 months ago

I disagree, because this ends up with implying that if you just got rid of That One Fucking Guy, then everything with Google Search would be good.

Which... is not a claim I'd agree with without extremely convincing evidence.

Ehh, I don't think that's really what it implies.

It implies that getting rid of That Fucking Guy is a necessary but likely insufficient condition for improving things.

Orgs that have been dysfunctional for a long time tend to have very complex dysfunctions, but there are still ways to fix these orgs, and it often starts by removing poor leadership from their posts.

Does it immediately make everything sunshine and lollipops? Of course not, but removing leadership that's actively working to counter your goals is still a necessary step towards the greater goal.

I think there are often two camps when it comes to organizational dynamics: "Team Incentives" (everything is about org structure and incentives) vs. "Team Great Person" (everything is about a small set of specific high-level people)

The reality is often somewhere in between. IMO "Team Incentives" often errs too much in that belief - especially because dysfunctional incentives are often downstream from a surprisingly small number of people.

  • In terms of understanding the dynamic though, That Fucking Guy doesn't really help. At best it can be emblematic of the underlying dysfunction, but in reality, with complex organizational dynamics, it's the underlying forces that empower That Fucking Guy that are important to understand, because the whole problem is that their function in the organization are an inevitable consequence of the dysfunction, and with proper function the organization would be able to harness their skills productively.

    • Err, I'll walk it back a little. Corporate decisions are just people's decisions, and though it's probably not just Raghavan, it was _somebody_'s decision to have Google spam our homepages.

      Maybe we just need to be better at navigating who _somebody_ is, organizations can only be so complex at the top.

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Someone can still be responsible for decisions made in a system with poor incentives.

  • Oh, yes, I agree that we should name and shame, but I suspect the list of names to be a lot longer than one or two people.