Comment by justaman
1 year ago
I think everyone has a sour taste left over from decades of half-baked laws written by politicians that don't understand the basics of the internet or technology in general.
With that said, I also don't understand the issues people are having with this.
I wonder how they deal with the (hopefully) constant abuse reports aimed at them from providers who are tired of their shady customers doing shady things from their IPs.
They wouldn't.
> With that said, I also don't understand the issues people are having with this.
The regulation "requir[es] U.S. Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) providers of IaaS products to verify the identity of their foreign customers"
Q: How would one propose to determine if a customer is foreign or not?
A checkbox, perhaps? <rolls eyes>
No bad actor would possibly pretend to be a domestic customer, of course... <rolls eyes again>
That's a strawman. <rolls eyes> It won't be a checkbox, of course... <rolls eyes again>
> That's a strawman [..]
OK, I'll bite. How exactly are [US] domestic users of services supposed to prove they don't need to prove their identity?
EDIT: it reminds me of the Common Travel Area (between Ireland and of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland), which has some glorious inconsistencies. For instance that nationals of Ireland and the UK travelling between those two countries do not need a passport, except when you take an international flight and rock up at IE/UK border control it's fairly hard to prove you are a national who doesn't need to provide a passport without having ... a passport (or equivalent ID).
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You don't understand the issues me as a blind person has with it? OK I have to upload a government ID every time I want to use an internet service. That's stupid. It's also considered a general warrant, and I thought we did away with those long ago.
What laws are you talking about? The Internet has grown a lot that’s largely because we have smart politicians and strong institutions. I really think the regulation of the Internet has been amazingly good.
For example: CAN-SPAM. If I want to send emails to a list, I have to burn $90 of my scarce dollars every year just for a PO box for the address at the bottom on the off chance someone sends a letter to unsubscribe. Unless I want to put my home address in every email, which I don't, and no one should. Unsubscribe links and highly effective spam filters were already completely standard when the law was passed in 2003. It doesn't matter if the email you send doesn't actually require it because every mailing list provider requires it.
Eh, unsubscribe links were definitely not universal in 2003 and they barely are today. But the situation has definitely improved in the last 20 years.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_IP_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agre...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_A...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM
Yep, all of those need to go the way of the creamitorium!!!! You forgot FISA and CISA though, how'd you do that.
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