Comment by sanderjd

2 years ago

You're right that it could be the case. But I disagree that it is likely to be, in this specific case, and the other specific case you cited.

I think many people distrust and dislike Altman and Musk in particular because of their own specific behavior.

Some people are hated because people are just jealous, but other people use that as an umbrella excuse to deflect blowback from their behavior that they entirely deserve. I believe this is one of those latter cases.

But you don’t even know what their behavior really is. What you do know is the narrative created by fake news media mostly. At best it’s lies by omission, at worst - outright smears and fabrications. Idk much about Altman, but people who worked with Musk hold him in very high regard and say he’s the real deal. Yet if you go by the narratives you’d think the exact opposite

  • I don't know about you, but judging by what Elon says in his social media posts, I'm going to assume that the people who worked with Musk are poor judges of character. Or these same people happen to have a ton of TSLA stock or some other vested interest in Elon, so kissing his ass is good for their bottom line.

    • I don’t care what he says. Last I checked he’s free to say whatever he likes. Attempts to police the speech of others should be no more socially acceptable than farting in a crowded elevator. I care what he actually accomplishes. If his being a little unhinged leads to greater accomplishments, that’s a worthwhile tradeoff in my book.

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  • These are famous people who do and say things in public all the time, which I can see and evaluate entirely on my own.

    That in no way implies that people who have worked with these people or know them socially will agree with my assessments of them. People just assess things differently from one another. We all care about and prioritize different things.

    (For what it's worth, it's possible that I also know a few people who have worked for or with Musk, and have incorporated the nuances of their views into mine, to some extent...)

  • Ah yes, the real deal.

    How's that self driving coming along?

    How about the Cybertruck being a few years late?

    How about the low cost car being cancelled?

    How about the you have all the hardware you need - oh wait oopsie you need to pay us thousands more

    How about the taking Tesla private tweet?

    How about the repeatedly and flagrantly violating government contracts that are basically his company's only revenue because he's too powerful for consequences?

    How about...

    Definitely the real deal.

    • Self driving is actually coming along better than I thought it would. Version 12 behaves like a human driver.

      The real source of your frustration though is that he does not fully subscribe to the neoliberal dogma and lets millions of others to say whatever they like. Totalitarian left can’t handle that, it’s a visceral reaction

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