Comment by kragen

2 years ago

in 02016 it was patented magic in many countries. now the patents have all expired, or will in a few months, since the standard was released in august 02004 after a year of public standardization work, patents only last 20 years from filing, and you can't file a patent on something that's already public (except that, in the usa, there's a one-year grace period if you're the one that published it). if there are any exceptions, i'd be very interested to hear of them

userbinator points at https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Have_the_patents_for_H.264..., but most of the patents there have a precedence date after the h.264 standard was finalized, and therefore can't be necessary to implement h.264 itself (unless the argument is that, at the time it was standardized, it was not known to be implementable, a rather implausible argument)

what's surprising is that the last 20 years have produced a few things that are arguably a little better, but nothing that's much better, at least according to my tests of the implementations in ffmpeg

it seems likely that its guaranteed patent-free status will entrench it as the standard codec for the foreseeable future, for better or worse. av1 has slightly better visual quality at the same bandwidth, but is much slower (possibly this is fixable by a darktangent), but it's vulnerable to patents filed by criminals as late as 02018

but it's vulnerable to patents filed by criminals as late as 02018

Ah, if we get through year 2038 we get latent free AV1!

why do you put an extra zero in front of the year?

  • Because he's a true believer in the Long Now religion. But not enough of a true believer that he uses six or seven digits ;-)

    Also, he uses that (and no capital letters) as a "bozo filter" - anyone who replies about that rather than the substance of the comment, he defines as someone he doesn't want to talk to anyway.

    Personally, I think it's rather an obnoxious move. He's deliberately derailing discussion about the content, and he has decent content. But he insists on playing this game instead of just talking about the substance.

    • it's a little bit like wearing a mohawk or a short skirt. a certain kind of people reveal what kind of people they are by harassing the mohawk-wearer and blaming the target for it. nobody is going to read this thread and be dumb enough to say, 'oh, yes, clearly, the person who was derailing discussion about the patent status of h.264 and the future of video codecs, in order to advocate the far more important topic of proper capitalization, was someone other than animalmuppet'

      (i recommend you knock it off)

      but yeah, the main benefit is that it gets people to read about the long now foundation

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