Comment by benreesman
2 years ago
It’s just clearly military R&D at this point.
And it’s not even a little bit controversial that cutting edge military R&D is classified in general and to an extreme in wartime.
The new thing is the lie that it’s a consumer offering. What’s new is giving the helm to shady failed social network founders with no accountability.
These people aren’t retired generals with combat experience. They aren’t tenured professors at Princeton IAS on a Nobel shortlist and encumbered by TS clearance.
They’re godawful almost ran psychos who never built anything that wasn’t extractive and owe their position in the world to pg’s partisanship 15 fucking years ago.
most technology is dual or multiple use, starting with a rock or knife...
so it is up to the fabric of our society and everyone involved in dealing with the technology, how the rules and boundaries are set.
that there will be military use is obvious. However, it is naive to think one can avoid military use by others by not enabling oneself for it.
To me it is not clear at all, can you please elaborate why you make such a strong claim?
My opinion is based on a lot more first hand experience than most, some of which I’m at liberty to share and some that I’m not and therefore becomes “color”.
But I’m a nobody, Edward Snowden has a far more convincing track record on calling abuses of power: https://community.openai.com/t/edward-snowden-on-openai-s-de...
Here's Edward Snowden heroically waffling about "nuance" when asked why he hasn't spoken out more about Russia's invasion of Ukraine. On a crypto website. He became a full citizen of Russia in autumn 2022, by the way.
https://www.coindesk.com/video/edward-snowden-explains-why-h...
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One data point:
https://openai.com/index/openai-appoints-retired-us-army-gen...
>owe their position in the world to pg’s partisanship 15 fucking years ago
PG?
Paul Graham