Comment by bad_user
2 years ago
I'm an European and I get zero spam calls.
I used to get a couple of cold calls per year for surveys, but I got unlisted via GDPR requests and now its down to zero.
Companies do try collecting your phone number, but then I answer NO to the obligatory "do you want the latest offers" question (in the EU, this is opt-in not opt-out). And it doesn't matter if my phone number leaks.
This is similar to my email address use. I used to get emails from recruiters, but after a couple of replies informing them that whatever profile they have is illegal, with my email address not being public, asking them to delete it, the emails stopped. I still get spam, but it's mostly fraud and US companies. Fastmail's spam filters are good enough, BTW.
My phone number works just fine, and the phone network is valuable given the better signal 2G can have, or the fact that not everyone is on the app du jour. And I find it odd when people call me on WhatsApp.
I frequently see US folks criticising GDPR, so I'm guessing this is one of those "the US mind can't comprehend" moments.
>And I find it odd when people call me on WhatsApp.
Given that you're European, do you not have any friends/family outside your country, in neighboring EU countries? Wouldn't they have to pay high per-minute rates to call you?
Inside the EU / EES we usually have minutes included.
Right now my plan, with Orange, costs 7.5 EUR / month with unlimited 5G (for real), 16 GB of data when roaming, unlimited minutes when roaming in EU/EES, and 600 international minutes in EU/EES. We do have great deals here, BTW, I'm sure it's more expensive in other EU countries.
I'd have to upgrade for another 100 minutes with US / Canada, however, I have another plan from Digi that charges per minute but that's dirt cheap.
I do have acquaintances from US with which I communicate primarily via WhatsApp, but I don't need it for my family within EU.
> Inside the EU / EES we usually have minutes included.
Nowadays... but not so long ago it wasn't like that and the prices were abysmal. And considering that EU is somewhat smaller and there is higher chance of having international contacts make the IMs so popular (especially whatsapp)...
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Example from one provider: nope with 100 countries. Including the US, Canada, China etc.
In Finland I see the opposite problem. Traditional calling is dead, so there is absolutely no competition on international calls.
National calls and calls to nordic and Baltic countries are typically included in the subscription. But once you have to call to let's say central Europe per minute rates are exorbitant compared to today's data volume pricing.
Looks expensive. What about the regular phone plans? For instance, the plan I use currently in Japan has high per-minute or per-SMS charges for international numbers. The trade-off, of course, is that it's dirt cheap as long as you don't call international numbers, and basically just use it for mobile data. In a place where everyone uses LINE for communication, this works well.
Everything you mentioned is the beauty of the EU privacy laws (so far), however there is another negative externality you haven't planned for maybe.
Giving your phone number out to all these services also means that it can be used as a single identifier to track you and your behavior across all those services.
I'm not sure that GDPR is helping us a lot there.