Comment by lwansbrough
6 months ago
For anyone having trouble with the logic here, which seems like a lot of people in this thread for some reason:
[Google's browser] comes with [code] that [does things] in a default installation of [Google's browser] that [Google's competitors] can't do in a default installation of [Google's browser].
Didn't you leave out that [Google's browser] allows [Google's websites] to do things [other websites] cannot?
Ostensibly [Google's websites] are websites like any other, but [Google's browser] treats them differently. IIRC Mozilla does similar things for addons.mozilla.org, but googles seem more broad since they are not as clearly linked to browser functionality.
We’re saying the same thing. There are some who believe this is okay. But it is clearly monopolistic behaviour that should be regulated.
My reading of your comment was defensive of google, basically "google ships a software package so of course they should be able to do stuff others can't" where I tried to highlight "google ships a browser which should of course treat websites equally". Seems like I misunderstood the intent behind your comment.
I don't have a problem with the logic, I'm just not sure why I should care. I imagine Edge probably can do magic stuff on microsoft sites that it can't on the rest of the web too. It makes sense for the browser to have a higher level of trust for the company that makes it than it does for the wider web.
There was massive antitrust lawsuit about behavior like this, when browses where new.
>There was massive antitrust lawsuit about behavior like this, when browses where new.
I'm still no sure why I should care.
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Some people remember when the government went after Microsoft for having secret APIs that only IE could use.
... but other people remember that in the time since, that entire Microsoft monopoly fiasco is held up as an example of bad prosecution, and we don't go after companies like that anymore.
>... but other people remember that in the time since, that entire Microsoft monopoly fiasco is held up as an example of bad prosecution, and we don't go after companies like that anymore.
This, but also, I still don't see anyone posting a compelling reason why I should care about this issue. The government and I don't necessarily have the same interests. Personally I don't care that google gives their own browser more access to my computer when I use google services, and if it improves my experience, I actually want that to be the case.
The bulk of the complaints about this just seem to be tattletale behavior you see from children, not any thought out complaints based upon an actual harm.
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[does relatively innocuous, relatively boring things]
That only Google can do, which makes competing with them harder. This isn't difficult to understand.
yes the resource monitoring and alerting on meet was instrumental to my decision to cancel all other software subscriptions and give all my money to google
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Like [slowing Youtube down] on [Firefox] [0].
[0]: https://www.zdnet.com/article/youtube-is-slowing-video-loads...
A "bug", like breaking Google Docs on Vivaldi ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Can you elaborate?
Is it just Google's competitors, or it is everyone?