Comment by Dylan16807

2 years ago

I'm saying that your argument is absurd, but the one in the blog post is not absurd. You made a strawman.

"A good person is obligated to quit a bad company." is a far more reasonable statement than "A good company is obligated to hire every good person."

> Also, with regard to your scale - you've given the question too much credit. The question doesn't ask "how much are you good or bad?", it asks and receives a binary answer. And the vast, vast majority of people can't be assigned one of those binary categories of "good" and "bad".

You can pick a threshold. Your strawman would categorize 99.9% of things as bad, which is obviously the wrong threshold, and very obviously not what the OP meant. The failure of that method doesn't make the entire idea of judging companies invalid.

I'm not giving it "too much credit" to take a sane and quite obvious interpretation.

Alright. I just don't agree with you then. "A good person is obligated to quit a bad company" is a bullshit statement, unless the bar for "bad company" is a lot higher than I see it. I already asserted at the very beginning of the comment chain, almost every company is bad. That went unchallenged, so if that's the context, almost every person is bad, no matter how much they do good in the world. That is absurd.

  • > unless the bar for "bad company" is a lot higher than I see it.

    Yes, the bar is higher (higher means it's harder to qualify as bad, right?) when talking about needing to quit.

    > I already asserted at the very beginning of the comment chain, almost every company is bad. That went unchallenged

    Because you went on to say it didn't matter anyway, so I focused on the latter part of your post.

    Though I'm confused. You showed an argument that sorting companies into good and bad results in absurdity, but it only results in absurdity when the bar is super low. Why is your conclusion that sorting is impossible, rather than "the bar is too low", if you were already seriously considering that the bar needs to be higher?

    • I don't think the bar should be higher for bad deeds! I prefer a lower bar. I see a lot of stuff happen in the world that I really don't want to happen (on topic: privacy invasions for profit), and it's not publicly called bad nearly enough.

      I also thinks it's misleading and not very useful to call people good or bad, in general. I'm more comfortable with calling capitalist corporations "bad" as a blanket statements; resource-hoarding is their utmost priority, and I consider that an evil motivation.

      My conclusion isn't that sorting is impossible, it's that people are too complex to be sorted into "good" and "bad", in general... and that it's shitty and incorrect to call ordinary people bad if they aren't willing to risk everything to work for a slightly less evil company in a world made of evil companies.

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