Comment by clumsysmurf
2 years ago
That's nothing. I have 10000 tabs in 24 windows (according to winger).
Its an amazing technical feat to handle that ...
But a total UI failure because this isn't what I wanted.
In comparison, my Safari session is well managed in several tab groups.
Interestingly, the 'Close Duplicate Tabs' things made the situation worse, because it takes ~5 seconds for the overflow menu to show. I guess they are doing some work on the UI thread.
Why not just bookmark them. It’s not like it’s going to stay in memory. It’s going to reload the page when you go back anyways.
Not the OP, but I also have a lot of tabs. In every browser I’ve tried the bookmark manager is rather primitive. I once ran into a Floccus bug that duplicated tens of thousands of bookmarks and discovered bookmark managers also don’t scale very well.
The bigger problem with bookmarks for me is the inability to manage relationships. With the Tree Style Tabs add-on in Firefox and vertical tabs in Orion, child tabs are opened in a tree. It codifies my search context and makes tab management quite easy. The analog in bookmarks is using folders, but they’re rather tedious to create when bookmarking and I can’t think of any browser that will auto-create nested folders when bulk bookmarking tabs.
I've been using Sidebery, which has a feature to bookmark the whole panel. It then creates a subfolder for every indentation in the tree.
What? The bookmark manager easily allows for tree structured saving of bookmarks with bookmark folders. Am I missing something here?
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Why can't tabs just be a visualization of browser history with the most recently used entries cached and bookmarks can go to hell (aka just be used for a hotbar)
Yeah it feels like 90% of people I've seen with mega tabs is basically that.
I can't understand the tab thing when history is pretty easily accessed in modern browsers... but it's common enough not to judge too harshly.
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Bookmarking needs a solid overhaul.
Support different groupings, regexp renaming, persistent original date order + additional last used orders, etc. (I have a longish list of wants).
I want better autofiltering on history (eg: dump all map url's that proliferate on every slight viewport change; dump all (say) HN links unless explicitly saved; save type XXX, quesry type YYY's for saving, etc) and overall more thought on easy organisation and "restoring" a particuar view of the internet from X time ago.
Bookmarks don't contain the history for the tab. History can be critical.
I can't speak for OP, but in my case it's a mixture of ADHD and a terrible story for bookmarking, which hasn't evolved at all in the last 20 years.
I have tried various bookmarking systems and inevitably things get lost. I don't find bookmarks useful long term either.
Bookmarks are a graveyard for tabs. Once you have bookmarked a tab, you 100% are never going to revisit the tab.
I don't understand the technical feat. The tabs are unloaded. Why should the browser struggle? 4400 URLs is small enough to fit in memory
Take a look at ps, it's not that simple:
https://imgur.com/a/BlTS83x
1) Just because something is dumb doesn't mean there is any good reason for it to be that way, but also 2) it in fact is that simple for Firefox, with the exception that it kind of forces you to have at least one active tab per window.
Not what you're are looking for but maybe Tab Session Manager might help you out : See my comment : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39985626
For me, i never really liked tab groups. I prefer to organize my tabs under topical windows. Tab groups is kind of an ugly duckling in that paradigm, but thats just me.
For what reason do you have all of these tabs?
It seems to be a cycle. Begin a project, and try to keep the Window dedicated to tabs for that project. Tabs are open for electronic part datasheets, API documentation, etc. Then somehow i pop over to HN and open an unrelated link. Next thing, the window is polluted with project tabs and HN (reddit, etc) tabs. Rinse, repeat.
I would say 90% tabs are unimportant, but I am afraid to nuke the session from orbit because there are some hard to find links / important ones in there.
I solve this by keeping a digital notebook. I have no idea why this is lost on so many people.
Each project gets a new note in Obsidian or OneNote or whatever note taking tool you are using. Each day gets a new #H1 heading with the day. Any relevant URLs get added to the note.
At the end of the day, review your notes and clean them up to be concise. Explain to your future self what you did and why those links are important.
Then close your browser tabs, they are saved in the notes.
If you need the content from the website itself (maybe you are concerned about the site disappearing), use something like Pocket or copy code snippets, text, etc directly into the note. Screenshots help too.
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> I would say 90% tabs are unimportant, but I am afraid to nuke the session from orbit because there are some hard to find links / important ones in there.
Are they easy to find in the list of 4400 tabs?
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Personally I open vast sums of tabs because, unlike browser history, tabs are organized in windows that help you maintain context for whatever you were thinking of when the tabs were opened. In an ideal world, I'd eventually go back and bookmark, tag, and close them. Unfortunately there are very few options for cross-browser tagged bookmark sync.
I suspect the major browser vendors are not incentivized to create a solution for this problem. In the case of Microsoft and Google, they'd prefer you avoided bookmarks and asked their search engine so that they can serve you ads. Apple has never prioritized cross platform conveniences, so that leaves out Safari. Firefox is better about this, but only with other instances of Firefox.
those 10000 tabs are not really open you know? It's just a list, it's like opening a huge file, the better editors only open a portion of the file to memory and not the whole 10 gigabyte file