Comment by 39896880
1 year ago
It seems that way to me too, but we have examples of high-censorship, high-freedom societies like Germany, and high-censorship, low-freedom societies like Singapore, and both report high levels of happiness.
The devil really is in the details.
>high-censorship, high-freedom societies like Germany
When the police storms your home (the wrong one at first, too) because you called a minister a dick on Twitter, that's not "high-freedom".
In my estimation, a country can have high censorship but also high ability for people to change the government (that’s what I call “freedom” here). So, in that sense, Germany is high-freedom because it can elect people to change the laws which enable censorship.
Unless those people want to vote for a banned popular party
"High-freedom": https://www.yahoo.com/news/germany-offer-police-extra-search...
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Germany isn’t “high-freedom”. Their people might be happy(though Germany seems to get more and more politically polarised every day), I wouldn’t know.
What's happiness got to do with it?
This is incorrect. Singapore is not a high censorship/low freedom society. You should visit countries before you trash them.
I guess “high censorship” is subjective, but you can’t protest without a police permit, media organizations are licensed by the government, certain foreign media have been effectively banned when when they made statements the government didn’t like, you can’t put on a play without script approval by the government, all movies are presented by the government, and libel laws have been used to bankrupt political opponents, forcing them out of government.
Seems pretty “high” censorship to me.
I have, and I found it much as Gibson did [0]
[0] https://www.wired.com/1993/04/gibson-2/
> Singapore is not a high censorship/low freedom society
Singapore constrains freedom quite substantially.
Singapore’s parliamentary political system has been dominated by the ruling People’s Action Party (PAP) and the family of current prime minister Lee Hsien Loong since 1959. The electoral and legal framework that the PAP has constructed allows for some political pluralism, but it constrains the growth of opposition parties and limits freedoms of expression, assembly, and association.
Deeper Analysis of Political Rights and Civil Liberties:
https://freedomhouse.org/country/singapore/freedom-world/202...
> You should visit countries before you trash them.
I haven't visited North Korea either. That shouldn't stop anyone from opining on it.
this literally a perfect example. your idea of NK is based mostly on reporting that is biased, propaganda, etc. and here you are mocking people who doubt any of that. lol. im not saying NK is secretly good but i think you would discover a lot of things that you didnt know. especially regarding how things got the way they are.
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It is low freedom if you're gay.