Comment by jaredwiener

1 year ago

> I can't understand why newspapers can't see that no-one wants to be spending that sort of money

NYT adds 210,000 digital subscribers in Q1.

"The company said it had about 10.5 million subscribers overall for its print and digital products at the end of the first quarter, up roughly 8 percent from a year earlier. About 640,000 of those were print subscribers, down about 10 percent from the same period last year. "

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/08/business/media/new-york-t...

I don't subscribe to the NYT, but I do have a WaPo subscription. I'm considering canceling it. Most of what I read I can get syndicated elsewhere, or the same information presented with similar quality, elsewhere, for free.

(Plus I'm tired of further lining Bezos' pockets, and I very much disagree with some of the current editorial staff.)

I get that real, actually-solid journalism is not cheap to make. But I'm not sure what the solution is when good-enough articles can be had for far cheaper, or free. The good stuff really is a joy to read, but I'm not convinced $120/yr (looks like it's twice that for the NYT?) is worth the price of admission.

Certainly a lot of people do buy and keep these subscriptions, and subscriber counts do seem to be growing (which is genuinely great), but I would wager that far, far, far fewer people today have a newspaper subscription than in the mid-90s. But maybe that's changing; maybe people hate all the sensational, clickbaity, in-your-face ad-supported garbage floating around for free.

I would only hope that as online publications grow their subscriber base, instead of getting greedy, they actually lower their prices, since their marginal per-subscriber cost is near-zero. Given that NYT home delivery prices in 1995 were ~$350/yr, (~$700 in today's dollars), it seems a little absurd that they're charging 35% of that (for digital) when their cost of distribution is a fraction of a percent what it used to be. Presumably the reason behind that is because their subscriber base is much smaller than it used to be?

  • Because the product isn't the newsprint, it's what's written on it.

    By your own math, a subscription is 65% cheaper than it once was -- but the reporting is still expensive. Try outfitting a team to go into a war zone, or maintain bureaus, etc.

    The problem is that the "good enough" free articles are usually just rewrites of the ones from the people who did the reporting.

    •     > The problem is that the "good enough" free articles are usually just rewrites of the ones from the people who did the reporting.
      

      I assume that LLMs are already writing most of these.

  •     > Plus I'm tired of further lining Bezos' pockets
    

    How much profit do you think WaPo made since he bought it? Almost none. Except for a few, most newspapers are essentially non-profit at this point.

In a country of ~300 million people and with billions of people speaking English or having English as a second language that doesn’t sound like that many? If I bought the paper edition of the NYT most days for $2 that would be ~$600/yr in which case the online subscription would be good value and they would probably keep those subscribers as they are already demonstrating that they are dedicated repeat customers. If they also added the option to add 15 article reads to your account every now and then for $2 they would create a digital equivalent for the kind of person who buys a paper now and then.