I think its interesting the number of folks these stories pull out who have gone vegan or vegetarian as a rejection of our food production system (something I understand) but have been.. tricked? into a simplistic kind of thinking that meat==bad.
I can say on a farm, processing poultry is probably the worst. Its a fair intuition that murdering a living creature cause its tasty is overall gonna be a nasty endeavor. But a farmer has to live on a land, often for generations and that death comes at the end of a whole lotta care and nurturing. Theres a balance.
But these companies aren't farms, and the disconnect of humanity from the work is the issue. That exploitation happens at all levels, to workers, to animals, to customers of the product. Thats the thing that has to be fought and it ain't as simple as just product type $X is bad as you shop at the same grocery chain owned by the same people supplied by the same suppliers.
Man you should talk with more vegetarians about their motivations, there’s way more in it than “meat==bad“. But telling someone it has been tricked is not the best way to engage a conversation.
You realize how often salad greens and lettuce and various veggies are recalled due to salmonella, listeria, and so forth? Here's one from just last month:
I think its interesting the number of folks these stories pull out who have gone vegan or vegetarian as a rejection of our food production system (something I understand) but have been.. tricked? into a simplistic kind of thinking that meat==bad.
I can say on a farm, processing poultry is probably the worst. Its a fair intuition that murdering a living creature cause its tasty is overall gonna be a nasty endeavor. But a farmer has to live on a land, often for generations and that death comes at the end of a whole lotta care and nurturing. Theres a balance.
But these companies aren't farms, and the disconnect of humanity from the work is the issue. That exploitation happens at all levels, to workers, to animals, to customers of the product. Thats the thing that has to be fought and it ain't as simple as just product type $X is bad as you shop at the same grocery chain owned by the same people supplied by the same suppliers.
Man you should talk with more vegetarians about their motivations, there’s way more in it than “meat==bad“. But telling someone it has been tricked is not the best way to engage a conversation.
listeria spreads thrives/spreads through sprouts and melons, among other foods including milk and meats.
You realize how often salad greens and lettuce and various veggies are recalled due to salmonella, listeria, and so forth? Here's one from just last month:
https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety...
I can't imagine where you would get the idea that being a vegetarian somehow benefits you here, or why you would bring it up.
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"How do you know someone is vegan? They'll tell you."