If BSDobelix had done some basic research, this would have turned up:
"In 2024, to escape Russia's investors due to the Ukrainian war, the Jolla initial company filed for bankruptcy, continuing its activity under the JollyBoys name." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla)
Quite a gutsy move, in my opinion, and as far away from "near scam" as can be.
fwiw I was working at Nokia R&D when Elop trojan horsed us, Jolla (and sailfishOS) was the result of people making MeeGO jumping ship.
I don’t know if it’s the same now, because 12 years or more of fighting the duopoly with no cash to speak of in comparison must have meant selling your soul somewhat, but I doubt it’s the intent to do anything shady.
Android (in popular use) tends to have a lot of closed source bits, though I agree that it should be entirely open source. I would guess that not having it straight FOSS is more a function of financials and headcount to be good stewards than it is of ill-intent.
For those curious, it's a continuation from where Nokia left with their Linux efforts, that's the roots in a nutshell. They did ship a smartphone with their own hardware in 2013. I still have it in my drawer.
Definitely ambitious, and an achievement, for a small company tackle OS, hardware, dev experience, everything.
I had a Nokia N9, their second attempt at Meego/Maemo, to this date it's the weirdest consumer device I've ever owned. The device shipped with a front camera but it was not accessible through any default app. The closest I got to it working was a mirror app someone made in a Hackathon.
Issues aside it was a beautifully designed device, you could see real innovation. Unfortunately Nokia killed it before it even shipped.
Well, I think you ought to write more than that... Enlighten us!
I think he's talking about how they(?) market it as open alternative to Android but most of the UI and apps were proprietary.
Some people also don't like it that they had some deal with the Russian Government.
If BSDobelix had done some basic research, this would have turned up:
"In 2024, to escape Russia's investors due to the Ukrainian war, the Jolla initial company filed for bankruptcy, continuing its activity under the JollyBoys name." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla)
Quite a gutsy move, in my opinion, and as far away from "near scam" as can be.
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I am skeptical too, but the company is Finnish. Anybody know more about them?
Edit: looks like a non-free OS indeed. The developer tools just seem to include an SDK. It's a pass for me.
fwiw I was working at Nokia R&D when Elop trojan horsed us, Jolla (and sailfishOS) was the result of people making MeeGO jumping ship.
I don’t know if it’s the same now, because 12 years or more of fighting the duopoly with no cash to speak of in comparison must have meant selling your soul somewhat, but I doubt it’s the intent to do anything shady.
Android (in popular use) tends to have a lot of closed source bits, though I agree that it should be entirely open source. I would guess that not having it straight FOSS is more a function of financials and headcount to be good stewards than it is of ill-intent.
For those curious, it's a continuation from where Nokia left with their Linux efforts, that's the roots in a nutshell. They did ship a smartphone with their own hardware in 2013. I still have it in my drawer.
Definitely ambitious, and an achievement, for a small company tackle OS, hardware, dev experience, everything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla_%28smartphone%29
I had a Nokia N9, their second attempt at Meego/Maemo, to this date it's the weirdest consumer device I've ever owned. The device shipped with a front camera but it was not accessible through any default app. The closest I got to it working was a mirror app someone made in a Hackathon.
Issues aside it was a beautifully designed device, you could see real innovation. Unfortunately Nokia killed it before it even shipped.
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What's the significance of the company being Finnish?
* From the home of the prior market leaders in mobile phones;
* Presumably contains many former engineers from that company;
* From a free democratic EU state, not somewhere untraceable and not governed by Western laws;
* As a European product enjoys more legal privacy protection and security than either American or many Asian vendors.
Those are the ones that spring to mind.
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