Comment by llamaimperative
15 days ago
Tautological
The Nazis were mopping the floor with Europe until they weren’t. The Japanese were conquering Asia until they weren’t.
15 days ago
Tautological
The Nazis were mopping the floor with Europe until they weren’t. The Japanese were conquering Asia until they weren’t.
But obligatory reminder, that back then there were no nukes. So it is not exactly the same situation.
Russia will not use nukes. If you believe they will, then they have you exactly where they want you to be.
So how do you know that?
Why wouldn't russia use a tactical nuke in west Ukraine to destroy tank factories? They already are a international Pariah, that is why they align with North Korea.
The only answer is - to remain the last standing they have. But at some point, they might not care. It is dangerous to put someone with nukes in a desperate position. Putin would not survive retreating from Ukraine - he would be in a desperate position if the odds of war are against him - currently they ain't.
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Eh, MAD brings us back to equilibrium. It's a significantly more dangerous equilibrium, for sure, but we should be much more afraid of a nuclear accident (not reactor meltdowns but accidental weapon launch) than of purposeful use of a nuclear weapon.
Well, the result is the same, no? If one rocket flies, chances are, they will all fly.
Neither is now the situation exactly that having nukes, means you can tell everyone to back down and do exactly as you say or else.
The nazis won many wars even tho they lost the big one. Will NATO win against Russia? Who knows. But in the showdown NATO/Ukraine vs Russia, they lost.
“NATO/Ukraine”? I am literally giggling at the absurdity :D Get a grip.
Russia is getting bombed every day and doesn’t even hold all of its initial territory. It is not clear who will win this.
It is extremely obvious that Russia would be crushed within days by a confrontation with NATO (but this conflict almost certainly wouldn't materialize due to nuclear weapons).
> It is extremely obvious that Russia would be crushed within days by a confrontation with NATO (but this conflict almost certainly wouldn't materialize due to nuclear weapons).
It's interesting the extent to which people haven't internalized this. Russia's industry has really ramped up on military production in the past two years, and their military will eventually get to the point where it can cause tremendous damage against a poorly-equipped Ukraine, through attrition. But the invasion revealed how far behind they are technologically, and a combined NATO force would turn off their entire military's command and control on day one of a real conflict.
It's an inversion of the situation forty or fifty years ago, when Europe had to rely on the the nuclear threat because the Russian conventional forces were considered to be overwhelming.