Comment by znpy

1 day ago

dumb question: could we, in the future, use some kind of gen ai to generate a videogame map (i'm thinking quake 3 arena / openarena) of buildings like these ?

(not just the basilica di san pietro)

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Tabular-Iceberg  1 day ago

I think the biggest challenge is not any of the technical or legal problems already mentioned, but that none of these buildings are laid out with the primary objective of being fun to run around shooting people in. So once the novelty wears off, I expect the actual gameplay experience will be rather clunky, especially with competitive gamers.

whizzter  1 day ago

With players in control any jank will be quite obvious, the field did accelerate thanks to neural nets but there seems to have been a lot of focus on NeRFs and GS (This interactive demo seems to use GS) and classic triangle-geometry (especially lower polygon counts) hasn't gotten as much love recently as the impressive GS demos has taken over.

But the success of GS and speeding up should rekindle some interest and let us use some of the advances in making "production ready" methods.

jareklupinski  1 day ago

we could have these today; the difficult part is getting permission to use the building in your work (depending on jurisdiction / the work)

  • porphyra  1 day ago

    Whether you can make reproductions of buildings and public interiors is known as "freedom of panorama". Wikimedia Commons has a comprehensive list by country [1].

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panora...

    • tacticalturtle  1 day ago

      It’s frustrating to see that the US added architectural copyrights in 1990. There’s an explicit exemption for photographs, but not models.

      What problem did this actually solve? If there is one, we managed to live with it for the prior two centuries.

  • squarefoot  1 day ago

    I wouldn't care about reproducing existing building as long as the AI can generate credible ones in the same style, then place them on dynamic worlds created by prompting the AI. Having intelligent AI NPCs as long as AI generated scenery would be a killer feature in any game. I'm talking about off line disconnected single player games; cloud ones with these features could be already here, but I want to be in control, and marketing rules are against that: who would buy the new shiny V2.0 with the new worlds and characters if 1.0 could create them just by asking it to? As someone who consumed tons of scifi novels and books as a kid and wants to be immersed in big worlds, enjoying great stories also in games (absolutely loved the Mass Effect saga), I already know what's going to happen when we'll be able to feed Philip K. Dick or Asimov, Sturgeon, Bova, Silverberg, etc. books to an AI and have it create worlds, environments, stories and characters straight out of the book descriptions. Literally drooling over it.

  • GTP  1 day ago

    To further sustain this point: I heard that in the past, someone recreated some parts of Politecnico di Milano (a famous technical university in Italy) as a map of some open source first person shooter. Unfortunately I don't remember which shooter it was.

  • znpy  1 day ago

    interesting, where would one have to look to learn and/or get the necessary data to pull that off?

    i might just want to do that for my own private use (or i might be okay with law infringement).

    • jareklupinski  1 day ago

      probably start with finding out who owns / manages the building you want to use (public record, company reports)

      if they like your project and see some value in it for themselves, they might even give you the contact of the designer / architect to get files