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Comment by methyl

21 hours ago

This is truly an infamous Dropbox comment moment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

Is it though? That comment recommended a hodge-podge of open source tools to approximate what Dropbox offered in as a complete solution. GNU Emacs literally has a several decades head start on any new niche electronic writing tools and is, in my estimation, a towering achievement in this space.

  • Warning: this comment may offend some in the Emacs community.

    > GNU Emacs literally has a several decades head start on any new niche electronic writing tools and is, in my estimation, a towering achievement in this space.

    I love Emacs but I had to spend more time that I would like to admit making changes to my init file in the first months of seriously using it. The 'average' user expects to be able to hit the ground running with reasonable defaults.

    A large fraction of my (blasphemous) changes was of course overriding keyboard shortcuts to match the expectations that average users have of what keyboard shortcuts should do, in at least the last 40 years of software. I don't have the mental bandwidth or appetite to learn incantations.

    So to me I see emacs as a tool no different from Notepad++/VS Code but a tool I can actually open the hood and mod to my needs/preferences that also happens to have a huge community that I can leverage with all the packages and minor modes.

    However, neither of this is realistic or practical as a key turn solution for the 'average' user looking for a distraction free editor.

    • > A large fraction of my (blasphemous) changes was of course overriding keyboard shortcuts to match the expectations that average users have of what keyboard shortcuts should do, in at least the last 40 years of software.

      You mean the same thing you can get by clicking the checkbox under OptionsCut/Paste with C-x/C-c/C-v (CUA Mode)? (And then, OptionsSave Options to… save your options.)

      Some people really like to exaggerate the difficulty of Emacs, and claim that they spent ages modifying their .emacs files to do what is really the simplest of settings.

    • Consider the audience we are writing for, I believe many of us who read Hacker News have greater aspirations than that of the ‘average’ user.

But it's true. I've written a novella-length book in emacs org mode and using a simple keyboard shortcut ended up with a generated ready-to-upload-to-KDP PDF.

As far as writing tools are concerned, nothing else has come even close and that's with very minimal config tweaking.