Comment by llamaimperative

1 day ago

> This kind of depends on the "great man" view of history where these figures have the kind of influence needed to move entire cultures.

No it doesn't it just depends on the "words the most important person in the world says matters in times of crisis" view of history.

> Some of this was probably cultural contagion from the US, but not all of it.

I don't think "all of it" is the alternative. There has clearly been a groundswell of similar sentiments across the western world, but to suppose that the question of who is the US President is literally immaterial is frankly insane.

It's not immaterial, but the backlash to COVID measures went far beyond Trump's position on the matter. For example in 2022 Trump was still eagerly taking credit for Operation Warp Speed, while many of his most passionate supporters were saying things like "Trump is great, except for his position on the COVID vaccine."[1][2]

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-stopped-talking-operat...

[2] https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/06/20/trump-i-dont-want...

  • Sure, and think about how many more lives he could've saved if he came out more vocally in favor of it, and how many more lives he could've ended if he came out more vocally against it!

    He waffled, and his followers waffled too.