Comment by gnopgnip

1 year ago

Which ones do those things?

It should be your default assumption that any and all data you hand over to a company will be collected, used by that company in any manner that they feel will be beneficial to them, sold/leaked to others, and ultimately used against you.

At a glace, it appears that the privacy policies of walmart, CVS, and walgreens allow for it. I imagine that's where most people these days take their photos for development and/or printing

  • I worked in a Walgreens photo lab circa 2004. At the time the mini lab kept a scanned copy of all images for at least 90 days. I think it was set to use rolling storage, so the time frame wasn’t definite.

    On another note, the photo techs will be looking at your photos - at least, the good ones will, so they can adjust for color balance and exposure. The really bad ones will too, so they can keep a copy of any “interesting” photos.

    When I worked there, I called the police about once a month, for exactly the reason you might expect.

Almost* all of them. At the very least its worth hoarding until an opportunity comes up.

[*] Reduced from all.

  • Are you suggesting that all photo printing labs secretly keep copies of their clients photos (including professional photographers selling prints worth thousands) and reselling them as their own? I don’t think that any website terms are going to make that okay?

    I understand this in how Instagram and Facebook terms read, that they can sublicense your images, and I’m not a lawyer, but sublicense doesn’t mean resell as their own? It’s still your copyright.

    • They don't have to "resell" the photos "as their own". It's the data you hand over to them, including the data in your pictures, which is theirs. I'm sure if Facebook decided to sell a book with one of your pictures on the cover, or if they put your personal photo on a mug and those mugs were then being sold at walmart their terms of service and privacy policies would allow for that, but that doesn't mean that there wouldn't be lawsuits and bad press as a result, which makes those kinds of scenarios unlikely.

      More likely they'd sell your photos to third parties who wouldn't make products out of them. Those third parties would just extract as much information as they could out of them and then use that data.

      You would never see it happening so you'd never know who to be angry at or when to be upset by it. That data would later be used to manipulate you, take more of your money, assign you into specific categories/castes, etc. but even if you were aware those things happened, you'd never be aware that facebook or your photo was a factor. Facebook gets an extra income stream and you're totally unaware.

    • I used to think like you do... up to around 2015 or so. Then I had to answer the question "how can this possibly be happening?" over a hundred times since. I now ask, "why wouldn't it be happening?" Uncle Sam has the deepest pockets in history.

      Every piece of commercial software is indeed hoarding anything it can get on you. Your employer is probably selling your pay stubs. The world has changed.

      Anyway John Oliver had a funny piece on data brokers if you'd like a ten-minute primer. United States of Secrets by PBS Frontline is a two-hour extravaganza.

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  • No way. I know a local photographer who has his own printer and store and makes prints and would never sell my prints away.

    • It wouldn't surprise me if you personally know an individual with some shred of integrity. It's be very surprising if you knew of even one large corporation that did though.

    • I wasn't expecting "mom and pops" to be part of the discussion, but kudos for finding an exception.