Comment by irrational

1 year ago

I learned and worked for decades before these tools were available. If they still weren’t available today, you would find that you too could program without them.

Sure, but isn’t this just “why don’t you use the backup camera that all cars have had for a decade or more” / “I learned to drive without one, and you could too”?

  • Are we trying out car analogies? How about instead of backup cameras, which are consistent and provide extra information, you have a camera that randomly guesses things around your car? Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's wildly wrong, but mostly it doesn't affect your driving speed.

    • >backup cameras, which are consistent and provide extra information

      in order to be extra information for me, the backup camera display screen would need to be in the back seat of the car, where I'm looking while I back up

    • My car has blind-spot warnings. They do go off when I'm not changing lines or nothing is there. However, it has probably saved me at least once and is therefore totally worth it.

  • A bit. But note that "you could too" is not a "you should too".

    I can back up without a camera, and I can "drive stick" as Americans call it. But a teenager learning to drive today should maybe not bother.

    But that's not the same question as "why aren't you installing a backup camera?". Because it wouldn't change my ability or speed of backing up. And I can drive stick. Why not replace my car with an automatic? Because it wouldn't improve anything.

    In fact I dislike automatics, since they'll suddenly and jerkily decide that another gear is best, ever though my foot didn't move, and inclination didn't change. But in a couple of decades it'll all be electric and this problem will go away. The deliberate engine braking is in electric cars just the brake pedal.

  • I drive a car that doesn't have a backup camera and I wouldn't pay more for a car with a backup camera. I've never felt like I need it. I guess this is just how these augmentations work. By the time you've invested the time to learn the skill, you don't need the augmentation anymore. So you're left a bit puzzled by people who do. The people who use augmentations, or rely on them, have a more clear differential view. They compare their augmented ability with their non-augmented ability and it's very different.

    I still have most of the python standard library and many of the interfaces I use often in my brain, so autocomplete saves me almost no time. I can type working code into notepad about as fast as I can type it in VS code.

    • Cars without backup camera tend to have good mirrors (exceptions exist).

      Once you put the camera there by default, the designers/engineers gets many extra degrees of freedom since they aren't constrained by visibility requirements. Those degrees of freedom are certain to be exercised! On the total this is probably probably a good thing, but it sucks when the rear camera(s) are covered with snow or grime.

  • Backup camera is not only the backup camera and nothing more. In our reality the backup camera is a perfect way of spywaretize cars. Cudos from the Government.