Comment by throwaway81523

1 month ago

> This is what a good privacy story looks like.

A good privacy story actually looks like not sending any info to anyone else anywhere at any time.

Your answer shows how we all have a very different idea of what our own desired privacy level is. Or what privacy even means.

  • If you think that sending data to a remote server is equally private to not sending it, then you are the one who doesn't know what privacy means.

    Of course it's fine to not desire privacy, or to desire a privacy level that is less than private. That's up to you. I liked the privacy of my old Canon digicam that had no internet. A photo app on a phone that sends stuff over the network might bring some useful functionality in return, but it can only be considered a regression in terms of privacy.

    • Privacy isn't a binary option. There are levels of privacy between "private" and "not private".

      What Apple has implemented is a LOT closer to "private" than "not private"

Sure, but if we follow that line of thinking to its logical conclusion, we must move to a cabin in the woods, 100 miles from the nearest civilization, growing our own food and never connecting our computing devices to anything resembling a network.

  • No? You can have a photos app that doesn't phone home while not having to move to a cabin in the woods. See: every photos app that doesn't phone home, and I currently don't live in a cabin in the woods.

  • I've read the post you're responding to like 3 times, and after pondering it deeply, I'm pretty sure the conclusion of their line of thinking pretty definitively stops at "Apple should not be sending data off the device without the user requesting it." If you think otherwise, you should maybe provide more of an argument.

    • The line of thinking is right there: "not sending any info to anyone else anywhere at any time"

      There are way more egregious privacy concerns than sending non-reversibly encrypted noisy photos to Apple. Why draw the line here and not the far worse things happening on your phone and computer right now?

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    • It is probably reasonable for average end-user to expect that landmark based search works without enabling the extra setting.

      They have option to disble if they care.

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    • Because the conclusion is not workable.

      Almost every single app today interacts with the network in some way.

      You would be constantly annoying the user with prompt after prompt if you wanted to get consent for sending any relatively harmless data off the device.

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  • It's not charitable to construct a contrived situation no one is talking about and place that into the mouth of a commenter.

  • Slippery slope fallacy. Nothing you said derives from not wanting to send information to remote servers, it's a false dichotomy.