Pretending to be ignorant doesn't change the facts, reinforce your point, or bolster your ridiculous argument that Musk supports free speech. You couldn't possibly be more wrong, and pretending to be ignorant doesn't make you right.
You have access to the same internet everyone else does. Look it up yourself instead of trying to argue with people who are paying attention and put in the time to be informed.
MAGA vs. Musk: Right-wing critics allege censorship, loss of X badges.
A handful of conservative critics of Elon Musk are alleging censorship and claiming they were stripped of their verification badges on X after challenging his views on H-1B visas for highly skilled foreign workers.
You want to go on the record support Laura Loomer as a credible source? Nothing in the article about account deletions, and nothing but one notorior crank claiming, without evidence, they are being censored.
Laura Loomer's credibility isn't the issue. It's already quite well established and non-debatable that despite hypocritically gaslighting and declaring himself a "Free Speech Absolutist", that he is so thin-skinned and anti-free-speech that he shadowbans, demonetizes, and kicks off many many people he doesn't agree with, and promotes and amplifies the White Supremacists and Nazis and racists he does agree with, and he doesn't support anyone's free speech except his own.
The thing about him censoring Laura Loomer only illustrates what a ridiculous point it's gotten to. It's not his censorship and anti-free-speech she's complaining about, it's that it's now to a point that it finally applies to her. She's not against leopards eating people's faces, she's just against leopards eating HER face.
If you still believe Elon Musk supports free speech because you're skeptical of Laura Loomer, you're just as gullible and ignorant and dishonest and unethical as she is.
Of course, just like Musk and Loomer, you're not even arguing in good faith, since your own words prove you obviously didn't read the article. You said "Nothing in the article about account deletions, and nothing but one notorior crank claiming, without evidence, they are being censored.", but right up at the top the article clearly states that THREE people were complaining, and he's deleted or threatened to delete the accounts of several other people and organizations:
>Driving the news: Trump's conspiracy-minded ally Laura Loomer, New York Young Republican Club president Gavin Wax and InfoWars host Owen Shroyer all said their verification badges disappeared after they criticized Musk's support for H-1B visas, railed against Indian culture and attacked Ramaswamy, Musk's DOGE co-chair.
And also:
>He threatened to reassign NPR's account handle last year and marked some links to the site as "unsafe" when users click through.
>Musk also removed the verification badge of The New York Times in 2023.
>X also suspended independent journalist Ken Klippenstein's account after he shared Sen. JD Vance's vetting document from the alleged Iranian hack of Trump's campaign.
And as someone who's not arguing in good faith, you know very well it's absolutely true Elon Musk doesn't support free speech, and the list of people and organizations he's banned or demonetized because he doesn't approve of THEIR free speech goes on and on, and there's nowhere near enough room in a typical article or attention span in a typical reader to list them all. You have a lot of nerve to be that blatantly dishonest in a discussion about ethics.
But you're so intellectually lazy, you didn't even read the article you're facetiously pretending to have read, so don't demand other people write and read exhaustive 50 page well researched detailed articles enumerating every fact and scrap of evidence for you, if you're too lazy to read a one page article yourself. Because you risk embarrassing yourself again by having your own words and the article's words quoted back to you in juxtaposition.
I dont know whether this is true or not as I only have the mainstream media as the source. And as any objective observer knows, the media lies, distorts, misdirects, deceives, obsfucates and so on.
So not saying it didnt happen, I just dont have any valid proof.
And anyway, if it's a choice between a hypocrite billionaire and the censorship industrial complex of a corrupt govt, Elon Musk is the far lesser evil.
Oh of course, when all the hard cold facts and indisputable evidence is against you, and after getting called on trying to use your own pretend ignorance as a shield, then you pathetically resort to the old "It's impossible to know any facts, because there is no such thing as truth" argument.
That's unmitigated bullshit. Elon Musk now IS the censorship industrial complex of a corrupt government.
You sure have a lot of nerve and contempt and disrespect for the HN community to repeatedly be THAT brazenly unethical and dishonest in a discussion about ethics. Read the room and take the L.
With all due respect, as Musk would tell you, and I literally quote, which you can independently verify yourself: "Please post a bit more positive, beautiful or informative content on this platform." [1] ... "Take a big step back and FUCK YOURSELF in the face." [2]
Pretending to be ignorant doesn't change the facts, reinforce your point, or bolster your ridiculous argument that Musk supports free speech. You couldn't possibly be more wrong, and pretending to be ignorant doesn't make you right.
You have access to the same internet everyone else does. Look it up yourself instead of trying to argue with people who are paying attention and put in the time to be informed.
https://www.axios.com/2024/12/27/musk-x-loomer-h1b-maga-veri...
MAGA vs. Musk: Right-wing critics allege censorship, loss of X badges.
A handful of conservative critics of Elon Musk are alleging censorship and claiming they were stripped of their verification badges on X after challenging his views on H-1B visas for highly skilled foreign workers.
You want to go on the record support Laura Loomer as a credible source? Nothing in the article about account deletions, and nothing but one notorior crank claiming, without evidence, they are being censored.
She’s not the only one reporting loss of blue check status, subscribers, and ability to monetize her account.
Laura Loomer's credibility isn't the issue. It's already quite well established and non-debatable that despite hypocritically gaslighting and declaring himself a "Free Speech Absolutist", that he is so thin-skinned and anti-free-speech that he shadowbans, demonetizes, and kicks off many many people he doesn't agree with, and promotes and amplifies the White Supremacists and Nazis and racists he does agree with, and he doesn't support anyone's free speech except his own.
The thing about him censoring Laura Loomer only illustrates what a ridiculous point it's gotten to. It's not his censorship and anti-free-speech she's complaining about, it's that it's now to a point that it finally applies to her. She's not against leopards eating people's faces, she's just against leopards eating HER face.
If you still believe Elon Musk supports free speech because you're skeptical of Laura Loomer, you're just as gullible and ignorant and dishonest and unethical as she is.
Of course, just like Musk and Loomer, you're not even arguing in good faith, since your own words prove you obviously didn't read the article. You said "Nothing in the article about account deletions, and nothing but one notorior crank claiming, without evidence, they are being censored.", but right up at the top the article clearly states that THREE people were complaining, and he's deleted or threatened to delete the accounts of several other people and organizations:
>Driving the news: Trump's conspiracy-minded ally Laura Loomer, New York Young Republican Club president Gavin Wax and InfoWars host Owen Shroyer all said their verification badges disappeared after they criticized Musk's support for H-1B visas, railed against Indian culture and attacked Ramaswamy, Musk's DOGE co-chair.
And also:
>He threatened to reassign NPR's account handle last year and marked some links to the site as "unsafe" when users click through.
>Musk also removed the verification badge of The New York Times in 2023.
>X also suspended independent journalist Ken Klippenstein's account after he shared Sen. JD Vance's vetting document from the alleged Iranian hack of Trump's campaign.
And as someone who's not arguing in good faith, you know very well it's absolutely true Elon Musk doesn't support free speech, and the list of people and organizations he's banned or demonetized because he doesn't approve of THEIR free speech goes on and on, and there's nowhere near enough room in a typical article or attention span in a typical reader to list them all. You have a lot of nerve to be that blatantly dishonest in a discussion about ethics.
But you're so intellectually lazy, you didn't even read the article you're facetiously pretending to have read, so don't demand other people write and read exhaustive 50 page well researched detailed articles enumerating every fact and scrap of evidence for you, if you're too lazy to read a one page article yourself. Because you risk embarrassing yourself again by having your own words and the article's words quoted back to you in juxtaposition.
I dont know whether this is true or not as I only have the mainstream media as the source. And as any objective observer knows, the media lies, distorts, misdirects, deceives, obsfucates and so on. So not saying it didnt happen, I just dont have any valid proof. And anyway, if it's a choice between a hypocrite billionaire and the censorship industrial complex of a corrupt govt, Elon Musk is the far lesser evil.
Oh of course, when all the hard cold facts and indisputable evidence is against you, and after getting called on trying to use your own pretend ignorance as a shield, then you pathetically resort to the old "It's impossible to know any facts, because there is no such thing as truth" argument.
That's unmitigated bullshit. Elon Musk now IS the censorship industrial complex of a corrupt government.
You sure have a lot of nerve and contempt and disrespect for the HN community to repeatedly be THAT brazenly unethical and dishonest in a discussion about ethics. Read the room and take the L.
With all due respect, as Musk would tell you, and I literally quote, which you can independently verify yourself: "Please post a bit more positive, beautiful or informative content on this platform." [1] ... "Take a big step back and FUCK YOURSELF in the face." [2]
[1] Notorious troll Elon Musk ripped for demanding more ‘positive, beautiful’ content on his social media platform: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...
[2] Musk Appears to Quote Popular Film in ‘F** Yourself in the Face’ Tweet: https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-appears-to-quote-tro...
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