Comment by amavect
6 days ago
I just read through the study. I corroborate your summary.
> The tryptophan found in hydrolyzed whey binds to a different receptor than normal dietary tryptophan, thereby allowing your body to reuptake it and produce serotonin as usual. (This is all in the study.)
Took me a bit to find the quote.
> If tryptophan uptake was abrogated by poly(I:C) treatment, tryptophan supplementation should elevate serotonin levels even during viral inflammation. To corroborate this, we used a diet containing a glycine-tryptophan dipeptide, which bypasses the need for B0AT1 and enables tryptophan uptake via dipeptide transporters.33 This diet compensated for impaired uptake in poly(I:C)-treated mice and led to an increase in both tryptophan and serotonin levels in systemic circulation
Now I need to ensure that whey protein contains some glycyl-L-tryptophan. The study used a lab rat diet "TD.210749" (unsearchable, maybe a custom diet) from Envigo/Inotiv. The citation used pure glycyl-L-tryptophan "G0144" from TCI Europe (~$100/g haha nope).
I can't find anything on glycyl-L-tryptophan content in hydrolyzed whey (maybe you can help?), but found one on other tryptophan dipeptides, alanyl-tryptophan and tryptophanyl-tryptophan. The ACE receptor inhibition seems relevant, too. The PepT 1 protein appears to transport the dipeptides.
"Selective release of ACE-inhibiting tryptophan-containing dipeptides from food proteins by enzymatic hydrolysis" Diana Lunow et al. - https://doi.org/10.1007/s00217-013-2014-x
I'll try this out for my early waking insomnia, mildly reduced energy, and digestive problems (started after I got Covid, almost exactly 2 years ago). I need to find one without artificial sweeteners (hate the taste). I'll report back in exactly 2 weeks (sets calendar).
If its dipeptide transporter, seems like any dipeptide would do.
Adding bromelain to mix might help.
Yeah, thinking about this a bit more, shouldn't stomach proteases break the protein sources into dipeptides? I found a few comments online arguing that hydrolyzing doesn't matter and may cost more. If that's true, then we should only care about the protein types of whey, especially the alpha-lactalbumin content (higher tryptophan). I think bromelain would only help people with reduced protease production, and it likely won't break apart hydrolyzed protein any further. Of course, theory requires a test, but I won't add bromelain to my hydrolyzed whey test.
Thats correct.
Bromelain cant harm though, is cheap, hydrolization is certainly not perfect, and it has other positive effects on body such as anti inflammatory, pain reduction etc.
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