Comment by hoppp

5 days ago

As a non-american, reading the definition of woke I dont know what to think

If woke means progressive and politically conscious then the opposite is what, uninformed,thoughtless.

So people say they rather be ignorant than conscious?

Sometimes I think people are not actually fully conscious and tend to behave like primitive animals and they are hating everything because reverting to hate is a primitive animalistic trait that requires little thinking or consciousness.

Or its a racist thing because woke has roots in black culture?

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Shorel  5 days ago

I would advise you to ignore yapyap's definitions.

Paul Graham has defined woke in the best way I have read so far, and it is in the article we are discussing about:

Woke: An aggressively performative focus on social justice.

(Performed by a self-righteously moralistic person who behaves as if superior to others.)

  • hoppp  4 days ago

    Fair enough. But to be honest, I feel like it should be a positive thing, that was hijacked.

    I can understand the original meaning as a way for black people to communicate that they need to be aware of socal issues caused by people who feel superior to them.

    Which then was hijacked by the people who cause the social issues so they can use it to act self righteous and superior.

wccrawford  5 days ago

Originally, people meant that you were inclusive and caring about all people. Except, you know, those hateful people on the right. Because fuck them. (I'm not even kidding. This is how they really felt, somehow.)

But then "the right" got ahold of the term and used it to mean the people above who went above and beyond and were actually being harmful instead of helpful, in the name of "being woke".

Personally, I think the pejorative term is a lot more accurate, especially for most people who consider themselves "woke". They drink their own koolaid and believe what they're doing is helpful, and can't see the divide that they are causing.

Of course, there are a ton of trolls (who are also probably on "the right") that use it to cause the divide as well.

So in the end, it ends up just being a way for jerks on both sides to rile each other up, instead of actually helping anyone.