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Comment by techfeathers

17 days ago

Do you really believe this? It seems inconsistent with free speech and Paul Graham’s own definition of wokeness.

What other ideologies fall in this category? Or another way, what ideologies don’t fall under the category of free speech? Should we stop advertisements with gay people? All religions or just non-Christian religions? What makes an ideology woke? That the mainstream is uncomfortable with it?

if you cared about running a business and making money, you should know your customers well and not do anything to upset that demographic

this isn't ideology related its market driven reality in capitalist countries

  • Fine. But thats distinct from what Graham is saying, which is that collaborating with a trans person is "venturing too far into wokeness".

    • It is, because why else would they deliberately pick a trans person, and moreover one who goes out of the way to make a big deal out of being trans[1], to sell beer to a demographic that's very very unlikely to be receptive to it? Wokeness is the only explanation left.

      [1] There are plenty of trans people who just want to live as their desired gender, and no one would even give them a second glance.

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    • “wokeness” is the current right-wing dysphemism for “not being a raging bigot against the groups the Right demands be targeted with bigotry”, and, when understood that way, it is clear that this is at least “venturing into bigotry”, and understandable how it could be “too far” from a particular speaker’s perspective.

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